Smash Time Productions, Premiered Mar 7, 2022
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Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part IV of a four part pancocojams series which
corrects the mistaken belief that stomp & shake cheerleading is the cheer
style that is performed at every historically Black college and university
(HBCU).
All copyrights remain with their owners.
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This post can be considered as Part IV in an ongoing pancocojams series entitled entitled "Correcting The Mistaken Belief That Stomp & Shake Cheerleading Is Performed At Every Historically Black University. Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/05/correcting-mistaken-belief-that-stomp.html for Part I of that series. The links to the other three posts in this series are found in those posts.
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INFORMATION ABOUT THREE COLLEGIATE ATHLETIC CONFERENCES
This information is provided since these conferences are repeatedly mentioned in the comments that are quoted in this post.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intercollegiate_Athletic_Association
"The Central Intercollegiate Athletic Association (CIAA) is a collegiate athletic conference, mostly consisting of historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs). CIAA institutions affiliate at the Division II level of the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA).[1]
The twelve member institutions reside primarily along the central portion of the East Coast of the United States, in the states of Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina. Since a majority of the members are in North Carolina, the CIAA moved its headquarters to Charlotte, North Carolina from Hampton, Virginia in August 2015.[2]
The CIAA sponsors 14 annual championships and divides into north and south divisions for some sports. The most notable CIAA sponsored championship is the CIAA Basketball Tournament having become one of the largest college basketball events in the nation.[3]"...
Click that link to read a list of the universities that are members of this athletic conference.
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwestern_Athletic_Conference
"The Southwestern Athletic Conference (SWAC) is a collegiate athletic conference headquartered in Birmingham, Alabama, which is made up of historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs) in the Southern United States. It participates in the NCAA's Division I for all sports; in football, it participates in the Football Championship Subdivision (FCS), formerly referred to as Division I-AA.
The SWAC is widely considered the premier HBCU conference and ranks among the elite in the nation in terms of alumni affiliated with professional sports teams, particularly in football.[1] On the gridiron, the conference has been the biggest draw on the Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) level of the NCAA, leading the nation in average home attendance every year except one since FCS has been in existence.[2][3] In 1994, the SWAC fell just 40,000 fans short of becoming the first non-Football Bowl Subdivision conference to attract one million fans to its home games.”…
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Click that link to read a list of the universities that are members of this athletic conference.
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD FOR THIS VIDEO
Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UohggLv5v8o
2022
1. @MR_Mocha_Major
"Wait a minute! I didn’t know the cheerleaders had all that
smoke! I’m here for it! Great job both teams!"
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2. @beyoncestan101
"Hmmm you never watched CIAA cheerleaders ? Lol"
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3. @MR_Mocha_Major
"@beyoncestan101 Never heard of it. Looking it up now."
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4. @beyoncestan101
"@MR_Mocha_Major CIAA is the oldest HBCU athlete conference.
You need to brush up on your HBCU history. It’s only 4 HBCU athlete
conferences."
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5. @MR_Mocha_Major
"@beyoncestan101 I’m from the south. All I have ever known is
SWAC."
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6. @beyoncestan101
"@MR_Mocha_Major The majority of CIAA schools are in the South
also in NC,SC and VA."
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NC=North Carolina' SC= South Carolina, VA= Virginia
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7. @MR_Mocha_Major
"@beyoncestan101 I’m from Louisiana. I should have specified
the DEEP south. I consider those states the northeast lol"
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8. @beyoncestan101
"@MR_Mocha_Major I’m from NC and this is very much the South.
NC has more students enrolled at HBCUs than any other state. 60k plus to be
exact. We have the strongest HBCU culture here."
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9. @supreme7057
"@beyoncestan101 Never heard of any HBCU outside of Southern,
Jackson, Famu, Howard, Hampton, Grambling, Tuskegee, TXSU, PVAMU, Morehouse, Clark and Spelman until like a few
years ago."
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10. @supreme7057
"I was in Charlotte one weekend and it just so happen to be
CIAA. I had no idea what it was even about."
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Charlotte= Charlotte, North Carolina
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11. @beyoncestan101
"@supreme7057 lol I’m sure you noticed the 150,000+ people
and A- list celebrities like Drake, Diddy, Chris Brown, Nicki Minaj that attend
as well "
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12. @beyoncestan101
"@supreme7057 LOL I wouldn’t brag about being uninformed
about HBCUs. In NC which has the most students enrolled at HBCUs we don’t talk
much about SWAC or SIAC schools but we know who they are. NCAT got like 5k more students then the
biggest SWAC school please stop. 😂"
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from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Intercollegiate_Athletic_Conference "The Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
(SIAC) is a college athletic conference affiliated with the National Collegiate
Athletic Association (NCAA) at the Division II level. Formed in 1913, it
consists mostly of historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs), with
all but one member located in the Southern United States."
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NCAT= North Carolina A&T (Agriculture and Technology)
University
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13. @supreme7057
"@beyoncestan101 Not bragging. Just saying, it's not the Met
Gala or anything. It's a regional celebration. I had fun that weekend I was
there and loved Charlotte and even came back the next year"
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14. @beyoncestan101
"@supreme7057 The CIAA is the Met Gala of HBCU events. In
10 years the city of Charlotte made over 700,000 million dollars. The
tournament moved to Baltimore, MD for 3 years."
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15. @themeanfriend.5928
"@beyoncestan101 North Carolina has more students in HBCU
because North Carolina pushes high school students in college and teaches
students that they won’t be sh-t* unless they attend college. They teach
students how to work for someone else."
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*This word is fully spelled out in this comment.
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16. @ericford4490
"And y'all are leaving out the most important fact NC has the
most HBCUs than any state it's why we have the most attendants and the largest
HBCU enrollment wise is n NC (NCA&T) and somebody lying saying they never
heard of any HBCUs in NC who graduates the most
Black Engineers in the World whose School of Engineering is ranked in
the top 5 Nationally that's including PWIs- NC A&T, NCCU is one of the top
law schools in the country and WSSU is one of the top nursing school in the
country. All three of the great HBCUs are in the State of NC"
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17. @ericford4490
"@ MR Mocha Major these cheerleaders ain't ready for the Cheerleaders of the CIAA they can't
compete with that Stomp&Shake style that would make these two squads look
like a elementary school squad
especially compared to WSSU and St Augustine University squads"
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18. @supreme7057
"@ericford4490 In the South, the stomp and shake style would
be more suited for a Pep Squad or Step Team. Our cheerleaders focus more on
tumbling and being girly. I watch some stomp and shake videos and it seems the
focus is energy and pep. It's cool. I don't understand it, because it's not my
culture. But, they look cute most times."
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19. @supreme7057
"@ericford4490 Lol. Yes. As someone from Louisiana, I
recently (last 5 years) found out that people from Virginia consider themselves
southerners. I never knew that."
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20. @ericford4490
"@supreme7057 it's because they are a southern state they
had no choice. if Washington DC was a state it would be a southern state,
Maryland is a southern state"
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21. @ericford4490
"@supreme7057 and u think stomp & Shake isn't girly
...lol...wow y'all ppl in the Deep South are I keep the rest to myself..lol .
There's nothing about stomp &Shake that's appropriate for a step team. And
y'all need to do more than concentrate on tumbling y'all have a lot to work to
do in that area alone. tumbling can be incorporated in stomp and shake cause NC
A&T does quite well with it. And what do you think cheerleading here? A pep
squad is a student body thing has nothing to do with cheer and the purpose of
cheerleaders is to pep up the fans during a game... what exactly are they
teaching y'all in the Deep South got me puzzled"
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22. @supreme7057
"@ericford4490 That's why I said, It's not my culture. Just
a heads up: I like Stomp and Shake. I'm
still learning about it. I thought the goal was the stomp the loudest and to
cheer in the deepest voice. Stomp and Shake is becoming more and more popular.
Even Southern University has a separate Stomp and Shake team now."
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23. @supreme7057
"@ericford4490 Send me the best Stomp And Shake squads to
watch. I love all forms of dance and cheer and can appreciate Stomp and Shake."
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24. @supreme7057
"@beyoncestan101 CIAA brings in about 43 million per year for
Charlotte. That's less than what the Bayou Classic brings to New Orleans, which
is only two teams against each other. CIAA is not this big thing you think it
is. It's fun and I love seeing successful black people, but yea."
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25. @ericford4490
"@supreme7057 no stomp and Shake is about using all body
parts it's not restricted to arm usage it's also a fast pace of cheering and
the cheers are more personal meaning not necessarily team focused but cheerleader to cheerleader focused and
more confrontational. The cheers are loud but the stomps not necessarily so but
in away perfect for bench cheering for example a basketball game"
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26. @ericford4490
"@supreme7057 Stomp and Shake isn't my culture it's not
that old. It was created in North Carolina less than 20 yrs ago. I'm getting
use to it myself because I come from old school competitive based cheering wear
stiffness, arms and tumbling is the only focus stomp and Shake requires a lot
of quickness "
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This comment isn't accurate. Stomp & Shake cheerleading actually began at universities in the early to mid 1970s.
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27. @beyoncestan101
"@supreme7057 The CIAA tournament is like the 3rd most
attended NCAA basketball tournament amongst all 3 divisions mam. Not just HBCU
but D1 as well. The city made over $600 million dollars. That is HUGE for any
city to make that much money from a NCAA event."
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28. @beyoncestan101
"@supreme7057 You’re a liar! The 2021 Final Four generated
around $40m for Indianapolis . Charlotte made lover $50 million at the 2020
CIAA tournament. The CIAA tournament is actually one of the biggest sporting
events in American sports culture not just HBCU Cultufe."
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29. @lavkyn
"Right! both looked great😊"
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30. @ericgoldberg1079
"Is this normal for HBCU cheer teams to “meet in the middle”
I went to LSU and have never seen anything like this… or maybe it’s a special
cheer off😂….I definitely found it interesting…. W goes
to TxSU…..🏅😆🥇🎖"
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31. @lihjayyt2516
"Look up stomp & shake"
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32. @cbsoiceyy
"A Norfolk State Vs Hampton University cheer battle 😭😭..
we literally are at the line in each other’s face !"
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33. @ericgoldberg1079
"@cbsoiceyy I actually find this interesting and I LOVE 💕
IT!!!"
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34. @WalterTerrell2009
"Gotta love the SWAC!"
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35. @bogusguhl2715< 2023
"CIAA has FAR better cheerleaders"
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36. @asheshshah5017
"The TSU AND PVU RIVAL IS SERIOUS!!!!!!!"
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37. @Kenkappa89, 2023
"Oh you ain’t know"
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38. @gregrodgers194, 2024
"YES IT IS!!"
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39. @ConsciousFBA, 2024
"Nothing like the rivalry between Howard and Hampton. They go
at it and leave it on the floor."
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40. @tangelawoodland4385
"Loved the battle but PV need to leave that stomp n
shake mess alone. Don't bring that mess to the SWAC....WE DON'T DO THAT HERE!"
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41. @ericford4490
"What stomp and shake. The SWAC can't handle the stomp and
shake and u right they do need to leave it alone but they first need to develop
the technique first"
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42. @tynerapiper2722
"WE DON’T DO THAT HERE!!!!!!!!!!"
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43. @ericford4490
"@tynerapiper2722 that ain't the only thing y'all don't do
here, cheering not one of them either but that deathdrop was a beast and the
only thing I found impressive about this video. And what PV was trying to do
wasn't anywhere near Stomp & Shake it's best they stick with their own
traditional type of cheering. Stomp and Shake was created n NC y'all ain't
ready for that down there..."
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44. @tynerapiper2722
"@ericford4490 Listen, what they do there now is their
business. I am proud either way! I can
only speak for when I was cheering AND captain 10 years ago!!! The death drop
did shut PV down, but if THIS were MY SQUAD, PV wouldn’t have gotten a chance
to shake their pom poms ☺️"
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45. @ericford4490
"@tynerapiper2722 lol ... i hear you.. I'm old school still big
on competitive cheerleading. And this Stomp and Shake has taken over in high
school circles in NC especially at prodominated black schools hell I'm still
pissed my alma mater (NCAT) dropped coed and went to all female straight stomp
&Shake squad but I guess they had no choice since Stomp and Shake is sooo
huge n NC"
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46. @beyoncestan101
"I need SWAC cheerleaders to study the CIAA because this was
very sloppy."
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47. @RJ25255
"Maybe pvam but TXSU handled theirs 🐅🐅🐅"
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48. @beyoncestan101
"@RJ25255 Nah they would get ate up my multiple CIAA
squads in this format"
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49. @ericford4490
"Both teams have a lot of work to do, the only thing I was
impressed with was that death drop. The one cheer that each squad did do lacked
enough energy for me. Tx Southern squad was acting more like a danceline than a
cheer squad"
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50. @RJ25255
"@beyoncestan101 Chile.. which teams so I can blast you lol"
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51. @beyoncestan101
"@RJ25255 WSSU, Virginia State, Lincoln, Bowie, St. Aug
,l just to name a couple."
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52. @RJ25255
" @beyoncestan101 Chile"
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53. @beyoncestan101
"@RJ25255 CIAA has the most popular rand original HBCU
cheerleaders. This is why “ Super Saturday” attracts thousands of fans. The
SWAC squads would get are up by most CIAA squads."
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“Are up” is a typo for “ate up”
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54. @perrion357
"@beyoncestan101 That may be true, but the SWAC has the Best
Marching Bands in the Country, the CIAA doesn't really have bands 50 people and
less doesn't count"
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55. @beyoncestan101
"@perrion357 What does Band have to do with cheerleading?
The CIAA is D2 and smaller private schools. Still the CIAA Basketball
tournament is the #1 HBCU sporting event ."
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56. @RJ25255
"@beyoncestan101 the SWAC is still the best! Everyone check
for us boo! Have a blessed week!"
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57. @jerronjohnson
"🤣😂😂🤣🤣
I was thinking the same thing. But I decided to let them have it #HBCUPRIDE and
all .. But this was funny at best"
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58. @beyoncestan101
"@jerronjohnson Hmm the largest HBCU is. NC A&T and GHOE is the biggest Homecoming . Howard,
Spelman, Morehouse are the most prestigious. The CIAA Tournament is also the
biggest HBCU sporting event. No shade but none of these schools are in the
SWAC."
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North Carolina A&T University's homecoming is called GHOE = "Greatest Homecoming on Earth!"
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59.@daizytales
"@beyoncestan101 nobody cares lol they ain’t battling ciaa
school 😂"
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60. @bestwaypossible7413
"(I GOT TIME TODAY). The hate.. 🤣🤣.
Well, it’s expected 🤷🏾♂️; you can almost smell the hate by reading the
totally irrelevant comparison to the CIAA🤣. To truly understand “SWAC culture”, you must
have an appreciation for the specific distinction between the different HBCU
schools and conferences. Its like vocal accents almost.. that vary from
different places within the US, or different foods we appreciate in Chicago or
Atlanta. Two different places and unique flavors but There’s an appreciation
for both if you understand the history of each HBCU. ALL should equally be
celebrated! We love CIAA schools but the SWAC Is and always will be in its OWN
lane. PERIOD, just has any other region or conference. LET TXSU and PV have
their shine. Dang 🤣🤣 smh.. there’s
always one.. lol 😂 — TXSU C/o 2009 🤘🏾
🐅
💨"
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61. @beyoncestan101
"@bestwaypossible7413 I absolutely love SWAC Culture! Being in the
East Coast football culture is not as big this is lord basketball dominated .
However the CIAA is Iconic for HBCU cheerleadering and the other HBCU
conferences can take a lesson or two from the style and precision of the teams.
This was NOT a good battle . The CIAA cheer exhibition at it speak filled an
NBA arena sir……."
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62. @Bigobanger
"Ain't nobody checking for no F2 I mean D2 schools let's go
SWAC"
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63. @EsiJua
"@beyoncestan101 TSU and PV are in "the real (deep)
south" -like most SWAC schools.
They dont have real "battles" down here - just awkward
friendly rivalries. We're too kind down here for hard-nosed
"battles". CIAA is actually east coast and quasi-southern. Y'all used
to fighting (battling) out there and Atlanta hasn't been "southern"
since all of Black Chicago, St. Louis, Philly, NYC and Detroit moved there in
90s and early 2000s."
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64. @ericford4490
"@beyoncestan101 thats not true most CIAA schools are public
institutions with the exception of JCSU, Livingstone , Shaw, St Aug, and
Lincoln"
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65. @ericford4490
"@Bigobanger scared to check? Although, they D2 if we were
to match up The SWAC cheerleaders against the CIAA cheerleaders the SWAC won't
win once and will get booed off their own courts. She's right this ain't even
considered a cheer battle idk what to call it a battle definitely it ain't.
I've seen all the SWAC cheerleaders squads they all lack energy their stunts
are simple but nowhere near top notch. A matter of fact I can put some high
school cheerleading squads like Harding University HS, Vance HS, Olympic HS all
out of Charlotte, NC, Dudley HS out of Durham, Fayetteville 71st out of
Fayetteville these are high schools out of NC will have the energy on turbo
from the start to the end and wax the floor with these SWAC cheerleaders boy
please you better recognize!! cause you ain't seen jack!!!"
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70. @ericford4490
"Most of the institutions that was part of the old MEAC came
from the CIAA .. North Carolina A&T, North Carolina Central, Hampton, And
Norfork St all were former CIAA schools look at them now!!!"
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71. @SmashTimeProductions
"@bestwaypossible7413 well said! Everyone has there own lane! CIAA
Cheerleaders have gotten all the shine for years. Mainly because their bands
and other units are not as entertaining compared their cheer squads . Vs the
SWAC most ppl are coming to see the bands and cheer gets overlooked. Now i post
one high quality video of SWAC cheer and it’s a problem. Makes me wonder would
have if SWAC cheer got even more exposure. 🤔"
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72. @beyoncestan101
"@SmashTimeProductions It’s not a problem we love all HBCUs ❤️
I was just saying this format is original to the CIAA and I’m glad the Stomp n
Shake style is finally taking off in the SWAC!"
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73. @cartiercroix
"@beyoncestan101 please understand SWACC isn’t stomp and
shake. When all you do is stay on the east coast you begin to be closed minded.
SWACC is very much a stunt, and tumble squads with strong sharp motions we
don’t do stomp and shake. And that’s coming from a cheerleader who cheered in
Georgia, Maryland. People need to understand the difference in styles"
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74. @cartiercroix
"@SmashTimeProductions go ahead and keep filming the cheer teams
from the SWACC bc clearly they want more"
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75. @SmashTimeProductions
"@cartiercroix
Trust me i will."
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76. @njdivad, 2023
"PVAMU grad. Seriously,
all I saw was hair whipping. Not a lot of technical or creativity"
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77. @lawrence9992
"Hmmmm ciaa cheerleaders are wayyy better. Specifically WSSU"
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78. @JDURANTPANTHER
"Umm two different styles of cheer we don’t stomp and shake
in the SWAC however we never run from a battle from any school"
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79. @mrpat7569
"Good stuff on both sides.... this would have been 10x better
if they had a little stomp shake"
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80.@PhoneHacked69
"Cheer Competitions / Battles are different in the South. We show out."
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