Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part II of a two part pancocojams series that showcases the parody video "Cinderonce" by Todrick Hall.
Part II presents that video and highlights a discussion in that video's viewer comment thread about why Cinderonce doesn't have a natural hairstyle for the royal ball.
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/10/todrick-halls-video-cinderonce-youtube.html for Part I of this series. Part I presents that video and highlights discussions in that video's viewer comment thread about why the entire cast is Black.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, sociological, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Todrick Hall and his cast for this parody video of the well known European fairy tale "Cinderella". Thanks also to Beyonce for the songs that are featured in this video. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.
SHOWCASE VIDEO: Cinderonce by Todrick Hall
todrickhall, Published on Aug 20, 2013
Tiffany Daniels as Cinderonce
Unterrio Edwards AKA Mia Fierce as Anastasia
Miles Jai as Drizella
Vonzell Solomon as The Evil Stepmother
Todrick Hall as Prince Charming
Shangela as The Fairy Dragmother
Joshua Allen as The Duke
All the songs are Beyonce’s records – hence the video's title “Cinderonce”.
In 2015 commenter Boubakar D posted this list of Beyonce songs that are found in Todrick Hall's "Cinderonce".
1. Halo ( 0:10 )
2. Diva ( 0:40 )
3. Freakum Dress ( 1:34)
4. Single Ladies ( 2:22)
5. I Been On (Never Officially Released) ( 2:59 )
6. 1+1 ( 3:15 ) (Later on samples "Hello" and "End of Time")
7. Countdown ( 4:54 )
8. Why Don't You Love Me ( 5:06 )
9. Love On Top ( 5:54 ) (With Dangerously In Love)
SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD: COMMENTS ABOUT CINDERONCE'S HAIRSTYLE FOR THE ROYAL BALL
These are the complete comments from that sub thread as of the date and time of this post's publication.
Comments are given in chronological order with the oldest comments given first, except for replies. All of these comments are from 2016.
I've numbered these comments for referencing purposes only.
1. Shaka Black
"This is so problematic .Firstly why make her look like a slave?Second why straighten her hair is her natural hair not pretty unless white washed?Third Black males are never shown as alpha males in your videosgastion from beauty and the beast was a straight white alpha male why not show a black man like thatplenty of african fairy tales why not include one"
Here's a link to Todrick Hall's parody video of the fairy tale "Beauty & The Beast": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpgshV-Fudw
2. Afika Lindegaard
"If you have something rude to say keep to yourself and get your facts right. In Britney and the Beast it is Todrick playing the beast."
3. Shaka Black
"+Afika Lindegaard He was playing a beast and the white guy played the alpha male"
4. Peri Winkle
"Oh, just go [profanity deleted] yourself with your social justice."
" "Why make her look like a slave?" Have you not SEEN or READ Cinderella? Cinderella is treated LIKE A SLAVE, she wears rags and everything. Sorry he kept with the theme of the ACTUAL Cinderella"
6. Shaka Black
"+Clarabird Doesnt explain the hair straightening"
7. Unicorn Dust
"Maybe she prefers her hair straight sometime, big deal?"
8. Kara Evans
"Oh my god hair straightening doesn't mean anything, literally a wig"
9. Shaka Black
"+Kara Evans Black Women have been pressured by racist societies to straighten and cover up their hair for centuries"
10. Kara Evans
"+Fatney Spears im pretty sure this 8 minute production was just meant to be fun and entertaining. You've just turned it into something negative. Literally it was just meant to be a good video. So what if her hair is straightened? Women have enough sense to know that straightening their hair doesn't mean they're oppressed and made to feel insecure. If a white or Asian person made their hair frizzy would you be saying the same thing? Straightening the hair is just a style, there's no deep meaning about oppression or appropriation."
11. Shaka Black
"+Kara Evans False equivalency straight hair has never been stigmatized unless its in a non white person and even then not to the same extent as afro hair.
White women have the privilege to try afro hair on for a day and change it back the next.
Black women can still lose their jobs over their natural hair."
12. Sage Myers
"The fact that ANYONE has anything to say about this comment says enough, sadly.
Her hair being straight after her transformation does say so much about what's beautiful in a mainstream white washed society.(as opposed to her kinky curly hair in the beginning) There's a plethora of beautiful hairstyles they could've done with her natural hair.
And men of color most definitely need to play a bigger role in Todrick's videos. He has so much opportunity to implement diversity and diversifying his content not only by ethnicity but the difference in approach to casting POC... but I've never truly seen him do it, which saddens me because it's a waste of pure talent if he's ultimately doing what every other cinematographer is doing :/"
13. Sage Myers
"+Kara Evans I'm sure you've been taught it's "just a style". Like how all of Kylie Jenners enhanced features she gave herself make her beautiful, but are frowned upon on POC. WHO HAVE THOSE FEATURES. NATURALLY. It's not a style, that's how they downplay it to make appropriation okay. It's a culture. And videos shouldn't have to be "white washed" in ways like so for it to be good content.
See your lane? Please stay in it."
"+Sage Myers Insinuating people are not allowed to have thoughts of their own, or that black women are incapable of making decisions for themselves is horribly problematic. Telling people they have internalized racism removes all agency from them, and you should be ashamed of yourself for saying black women can't have/want straight hair on their own.
Additionally, insinuating that Todrick is 'wasting his talent' is so problematic. If this is his vision, are you saying that he should not have it? Are you insinuating that he does not have the ability to think for himself and be creative as he sees fit?
People like you are an absolute mess. He selects his friends and people who are good at what they do to perform. Are you saying those people aren't good enough for you? That's what it sounds like.
You and the OP are so prejudiced it hurts."
15. Shaka Black
"+Venjamin Living in a bubble must be tough
In the real world people of my skin color face racism, colorism and Racial sexism."
"+Shaka Black I never said you didn't experience those things. I'm merely pointing out that you are stealing agency from other people by telling them what they like is problematic, when it is most certainly not.
Maybe don't forget that though you can't necessarily benefit from systemic racism, you can absolutely be prejudiced. It's on full display here, after all.
And don't assume you know anything about what privileges I do or do not have."
17. Rᴀɪɴʙᴏᴡ Sɴᴏᴡᴄᴏɴᴇ
"+Shaka Black You sound like you're from Tumblr where EVERYTHING is racist or sexist. So ignorant. What about the white women who curl their hair? The Mexican women who cut theirs? This is the 21st century, there are worse forms of racism today than simple hair straightening. And for your information, Gaston is NOT the alpha male; he was shown to be arrogant and very sexist, treating Belle as if she's just a housewife. The Beast was rude at first, of course, but he GREW as a character, making him the BETTER man, rather than just the alpha male. If you want to stop racism, how about contributing to actual #BlackLivesMatters movements instead of just commenting on a video meant to entertain and not meant to conflict anyone?"
18. Jillian Watson
"she's literally wearing a wig"
This concludes Part II of this two part series.
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