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Tuesday, February 9, 2016

Comments About Skin Color In A YouTube Discussion Thread of the South African Song "Easy To Love" By Bucie

Edited by Azizi Powell

This post showcases the official video of South African singer Bucie's song "Easy To Love", featuring Heavy K.

This post provides a compilation of the comments about skin color that were posted to this video's discussion thread to date. Those comments provide information about attitudes in South Africa about "light skinned" and "dark skinned" people Black people.

Information about Bucie is given in http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/02/what-language-or-languages-does-south.html. That post showcases selected comments from that video's discussion thread that refer to the languages that are found in the song "Easy To Love."

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The content of this post is presented for cultural and sociological purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Bucie and Heavy K for their musical skills. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO - Bucie feat Heavy K - Easy to Love( Official Video)

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DEMORMUSICTV, Published on Feb 26, 2014

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT1GMoi0hGo

These are all the comments in that discussion thread that refer to skin color as of February 9, 2016 at 8:00pm EST.

These comments were prompted by the video's story line: A young woman is courted by two Black men. One man is dark skinned and one is light skinned. The woman chooses the man who is dark skinned. Whether that descriptor is pertinent to her choice is part of the discussion in this YouTube comment thread.

I've also included some comments that refer to the fact that the men in this video are South African celebrities. The "dark skinned" man who courts the woman in this video is played by Cassper Nyovest, a popular Hip-Hop rapper/producer. The "light skinned" man who courts the woman is played by Brighton Ngoma , an actor who stars in a South African television series entitled Scandal. Brighton Ngoma is sometimes referred to in the comments as Quinton, his name in that television series.

These comments are presented in chronological order with the oldest comments given first except for replies. These comments may not be in consecutive order.

Four asterisks after a particular comment marks the end of a particular sub-thread of comments with replies.

I've assigned numbers for referencing purposes only.

As background, here's some information about "Coloureds" and "Khoisans" in South Africa:
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloured
"In Southern Africa, the term Coloureds (also known as Bruinmense or Kleurlinge) is an ethnic label for people of mixed ethnic origin who possess ancestry from Europe, Asia, and various Khoisan and Bantu ethnic groups of southern Africa. Not all Coloured people share the same ethnic background. As a result, Coloured people can possess a variety of different features.[3][4] Besides the extensive combining of these diverse heritages in the Western Cape — in which a distinctive Cape Coloured and affiliated Cape Malay culture developed — in other parts of Southern Africa, their development has usually been the result of the meeting of two distinct groups. Genetic studies suggest the group has the highest levels of mixed ancestry in the world.[5][6] However, the maternal (female) contribution to the Coloured population, measured by mitochondrial DNA studies, was found to come mostly from the Khoisan population.[7][8]"
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khoisan
"Khoisan" (/ˈkɔɪsɑːn/; also spelled Khoesaan, Khoesan or Khoe–San) is a unifying name for two groups of peoples of Southern Africa, who share physical and putative linguistic characteristics distinct from the Bantu majority of the region.[1] Culturally, the Khoisan are divided into the foraging San, or Bushmen, and the pastoral Khoi, or more specifically Khoikhoi,[2] previously known as Hottentots."

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1. Mellisa Thathane
"I love me some chocolate skin;)"

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2. wendy lekalakala
"i also like my man black and strong :) , ill pass with the lattes # African man"

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3. Gillian Ashton
"ha ha ha my fellow coloured brother was dissed awww shame lol"

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4. Asitandile Sihawu
"for once the yellowbone doesn't get the girl. LOL, thank you Cassper Nyovest xD"

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5. vutomi chauke
"A yellow bone is a light skinned woman bit*h"
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That modified spelling of that slur was given that way in the comment.

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6. Asitandile Sihawu
"+vutomi chauke I meant light skinned."

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7. Tshezaa Tsheng
"+vutomi chauke silly goose, yellowbone is not attributed to women only"

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8. Asitandile Sihawu
"Thank you!!!"

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9. Asitandile Sihawu
"+Tshezaa Tsheng
Thank You for schooling people."

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10. vutomi chauke
"Tshezaa Tsheng check on google for a definition u stupid moose"

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11. Nomonde
"+vutomi chauke there's no need to be rude and calling people bit*ch and stupid. you are missing a point focusing on vocabulary and the unnecessary."

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Zolani Dotwana
12. "Free schooling Dankie sani! some people like +vutomi chauke are cyber bullies by profession :)"

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13. Asitandile Sihawu
+Tim B I guess they wanted to get people talking about the video.
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"Tim B" may be another screen name for Zolani Dotwana. I can't find any comment from someone who used that screen name.

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14. Zolani Dotwana
"This stereotype towards black people (especially girls) with darker complexion needs to stop; The youth of today are so obsessed with being lighter skin, and this is fuelled by the Entertainment industry prefarence of “the so-called Yellow Bones” for their music video's. All shades of Black are beautiful!"

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15. Nomonde
"+Zolani Dotwana totally agree"

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16. NoxiousSubstance
"+Tim B But, the video is not based on an attraction to solely dark skinned men. Even if it was, why is it ok for other people to justify their attraction to lighter shades, as just a preference, but showing attraction to darker-skinned individuals on a platform such as this, unnecessary?"

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17. Jean-Pierre Prim
"All Bucie is showing is that she's racist. it disgusts me... I used to like her but now I've thrown her cd out on the high"

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18. nkolombe
"How did you pickup the racism undertone, since all three of them are black and african ? please reply i just want to find out"

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19. Jean-Pierre Prim
"+nkolombe they are all African. but not all black, she's implying that the black African is better than the rest."

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20. Claudia Dhludhlu
"I don't think she was being racist, showing preference does not mean Uu hate the other races, I mean she only chose 1 guy, the same way guys have preferences with the kind of girls they like is exactly what she did, I think you're digging too deep"

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22. Sonwabo Nkolombe
"No Jean-Pierre, you are confusing complexion with race, the light skin guy is black, He is just light skin, however He is ad African and Black as the other guy and Bucie"

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23. Evo Molaudzi
"the guy is not white but light skinned dont know what is racist about this"

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24. Jean-Pierre Prim
"that guy isn't white, he's coloured... also African, the video and song contradict eachother"

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25. Boitumelo Khutsafalo
"dope, dope, dope!@Jean-Pierre...i don't think she was being racist... the message has nothing to do with being black or white..she chose the other guy becoz he picked up the hand bag for her after she dropped it while the other guy was busy asking for her dials..regardless of their colour...i could be wrong but thats how i understood it.."
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In this comment "dope" probably means that the commenter thought an Jean-Pierre's conclusions were stupid. However, in this video's discussion thread the word "dope" is often used with its African American Vernacular English term meaning "very good" in praise of this song.

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26. Ngqabutho Mpofu
"Don't even lie and say you bought the cd we all know you downloaded the song illegally and you watch the video countless numbers of time"


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27. Amourelle Isaacs
This is such an awesome song! Turned up the volume!! Proudly South African!! Whooo Quick question though, who's the Hottie she rejected in the video? Haha

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28. Kidzo900
+Amourelle Isaacs That guy is an actor in a south African Soapie called "Scandal". Quinton.

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Amourelle Isaacs
Thanks so much. I got it :)

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30. Siya Sima [2016]
+Kidzo900 Real name is Brighton Ngoma

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31. Kenneth Miya
"this video is racist"

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32. Whoonga Goat
"+Kenneth Miya your soul is racist"

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33.Kenneth Miya
"+God Goon Why does she prefer an African black man over a fair dude..?"

I'm a fair mixed dude too and I'm offended.
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"God Goon" appears to be another screen name for "Whoonga Goat".

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34. Whoonga Goat
"+Kenneth Miya So you want to dictate who she can & cannot love? lol please. You're the one making this about race, she likes a man who's humble, doesn't flaunt there money about or try to buy her love with material things, that's what the video is about, it has nothing to do with skin colour lol XD"

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35. Kenneth Miya
"+God Goon
I see but they could have at least used two blacks or two coloured folks."

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36. cwopre
"+Kenneth Miya probly cus the fair dude looks like a chick... those lips are unnaturally pink lmao"

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37. Kenneth Miya
"+cwopre
Lmao!"

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38. Isaac Maestro
"Well SELMA - Glory to Bucie"

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39. Siya Sima [2016]
"+Kenneth Miya Hay wena r u serious? Brighton Ngoma is a first generation coloured like Trevor Noah. They embrace their Xhosa half. He wasn't offended. You shouldn't too. Haybo, yhu!! And he probably views Bucie like a sister or cuz since she's Xhosa like his mom. Haybo yhu!!! Seriously"
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Here's information about Trevor Noah from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Noah
"Trevor Noah (born 20 February 1984)[1] is a South African comedian, television and radio host, and actor.[2] He is the host of American news satire television program The Daily Show, succeeding Jon Stewart.[3]

Noah was born in Johannesburg, South Africa. His mother, Patricia Nombuyiselo Noah, is of mixed Xhosa and Jewish ancestry,[4][5][6][7] and his father, Robert, is of Swiss German ethnicity. Noah spent his early youth in the private school of Maryvale College, a Catholic school in Johannesburg.[8][9][10] His parents' relationship was illegal at the time of his birth because of apartheid, and his mother was jailed and fined by the South African government.[11] His father later moved back to Switzerland and Noah was raised by his mother and maternal grandmother, Nomalizo Frances Noah.[12]"

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2016
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Sunelle Daniels
"So whose the light guy?"

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41. Henry Dube
"Brighton Ngoma"

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42. Ike Haze
"I don't understand the storyline: is this video discriminating against Coloureds?"

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43. Ike Haze
"+Nicole Mathe
I'm asking, not assuming! There is a difference in meaning between these two terms!"
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I can't find any comments posted by Nicole Mathe.

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44. Ike Haze
"+Nicole Mathe
I'm talking about the video (the coloured guy tries to hit on her, but then she goes for the other black guy). Actually my initial statement was a joke and you took things way too serious. Do you know what irony is?"

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45. Ike Haze
"+Nicole Mathe
Why would I claim I was ironic when I wasn't? Would that make any sense at all? Do I have anything to lose? Please use common sense! Thank you."

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46. Nobuhle Mlaba
"+Ike Haze stop smoking weed"

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47. Ike Haze
"+Nobuhle Mlaba
I'm naturally high sis!"

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48. RRSYS.info - Roulette Prediction (Paul)
"+Ike Haze high5"

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