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Monday, October 28, 2024

Comments About How Donald Trump's Racist Madison Square Garden Rally May Help Kamala Harris Win The 2024 Presidential Election

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post refers to the United States Republican's Presidential rally at Madison Square Garden in New York City, New York on October 27, 2024.

These selected comments provide a sample of commenters' statements from several online discussion threads about how that rally, and particularly the "jokes" of "comedian" Tony Hinchcliffe will probably help Democratic candidate Vice President Kamala Harris win that election.

The content of this post is given for historical, political, and socio-cultural purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.

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SELECTED COMMENTS
These online sources are given in no particular order.

All of these comments are from October 28, 2024.

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only. 

WARNING - These YouTube videos whose links are provided include problematic content, including profanity in some cases.

SOURCE #1
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRNs_Kwborw "Trump GETS INSTANT KARMA as it ALL GOES WRONG", published by Meidas Touch Network, October 28, 2024

Partial excerpt of this podcast's auto-generated transcript:
[This transcript includes my additions and corrections of capitalizations, spelling, and punctuation as well as my addition in brackets of a small number of words for clarification .] 

Time Stamps: 0:00 - 0:31

"By now I'm sure you know about the disastrous Donald Trump Madison Square Garden Nazi rally that he held.

The Meidas Touch Network broke all of those stories, by the way. We were the ones who clipped through [the video of that rally to find pertinent moments that occurred]. Our digital editor Asen [found] the clip of Tony Hinchcliffe, one of the speakers, referring to Puerto Rico as "a garbage can of the world" and making other horrific and racist comments that Donald Trump and others embraced at this hate rally.“…

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Selected comments from this podcast's discussion thread:

October 28, 2024 

1. @redlaw8760
"Thank you Tony! You’ve done so much to restore democracy in the country. Because of your racism, ignorant and unfunny nonsense, thousands of people that would not have otherwise voted for Harris, or vote at all, will ABSOLUTELY vote for her. Thank you again!"

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2. @melodytenisch6232
"Thank you Ben. Insulting 6 million Americans who have Puerto Rican descent is not what I'd call a smart move!  mtnben❤"
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"Ben" refers to "Ben Meisales", the lead founder and led podcaster on The Meidas Touch Network. 

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3. 
@victoriasweeting8521
"What an October surprise and KARMA"

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4. 
@ethanr6177
"Karma hitting Trump remains to be seen."

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5. @katherinemcintosh7247
"Are we thinking this will make any difference?

Hope, sure? Cautiously hope. Keeping hope alive is all we can do after voting. I already voted, so, 🀞"

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6. @JamesCalabrese930
"trump really blew it last night-Go Harris"

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7. 
@OneGETSwhatscomingtothem
"Until I saw this RACIST FIASCO at Madison Square Garden, I was going to vote for Trump, and so were 14 of my family members. Not anymore. This is America. I spent 21 years in the Marine Corps, and all of these GOP members are lunatics. I, we will all vote blue. Freedom, democracy and Country before party although the GOP has become a MAGA cult."

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8. 
@sbrown314
"That cheap 'laugh' will prove to be EXTREMELY costly."

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9. @CarlosSanchez-et8qm
"Thank You for your help comediant Anthony this helps both, decided and undecided Puerto Ricans and latinos be clear minded. Bye bye Trump. P.D. Will Trump pay You? Or do the same he did with Pence"

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10. @blitzroehre1807
"Apparrently Barron Trump convinced Conald to have Hinchcliffe hold his speech there. That would make Conald the father of 3 dumb sons..."

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11. @AkweliParker
"What if Barron hates his dad and suggested Hinchcliffe as the ultimate way to sabotage his campaign? I mean, this guy was a catastrophe 🀨"

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12. @Cdavis9306
"I wanna thank that mediocre comedian that insulted Puerto Rico. Those insults against Puerto Rico  helped kamala Harris!"

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13. @shhhhh.242
"This is what they fail to understand. Also how did the Puerto Ricans felt inside the crowd because you know they had to be many in attendance"

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14. @JayneTheory
"At this point, it's pretty clear that his own campaign is sabotaging him."

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15. @Pinkleo58
"This rally solidifies Kamala Harris  and Tim Walz a place in the history of our country.  God Bless the United States of America!"

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16. @Jameel2615
"Hello Ben, I wanted to let you , and the MediasTouch fam know that I’m currently in Philadelphia. Born and raised. I am 30 years old, and grew up in North Philadelphia. It’s heavily Puerto Rican. I lived around them my whole life, and I find them to be some of the most hospitable friendly people I’ve ever met. I have NEVER seen them so angry. Literally I ran across a bunch this morning on my way to work, and all were adamant they’re voting for Kamala, and they think Trump is a racist."

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17. @maryrobie4752
"I hope this put the final nail in Trump's election coffin.  This was absolutely disgusting and disgraceful!

LOCK.HIM.UP!  NO MORE TRAITOR TRUMP!!"

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18. 
@edmundwee4790
"Trump thought he could nuke a hurricane.He nuked himself instead"

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19. 
@ZillaManTX
"The comedian is helping Kamala win

πŸ’™"

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20. @dorisdixon6108
"Only in that regard. We must be grateful he is putting his racism on display prior to the election so the undecided can make the intelligent choice to vote blue πŸ’™ for Harris/Walz"

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21. 
@USA.PUERTORICO.AUDITS
"He's going to pay for what people said about Puerto Rico@amyirish855"
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"He" = Donald Trump

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22. 
@oliverswands7159
"Bad Bunny and Ricky Martin have both endorsed Kamala publicly. They have combined, 50 million Latina and Puerto Rican followers.

Let’s hope it helps the undecided voters vote Blue.πŸ’™πŸŒŠπŸ’™πŸŒŠπŸ’™πŸŒŠ"

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SOURCE #2
from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaGsOkkPsdE "Trump's ABOMINABLE Fascist Rally at Madison Sq Garden Makes Final Case for Harris | #ResistanceLive", published by #Resistance Live, October, 28, 2024 

Partial excerpt of this podcast's auto-generated transcript:
[This excerpt includes my additions and/or corrections of capitalizations, spelling and punctuation as well as my addition in brackets of a small number of words for clarification.] 

Time Stamps: 4:01 -7:52; 8:51 - 9:26

..."All right, um, but I do want to really make it plain that the backlash against this event has been instantaneous and extreme and is likely to have a dramatic impact on the election. So let's just go
through a couple of the things that have happened since last night. A and I I don't I want to do my best here to not repeat the insanely racist and xenophobic things that were said last night.

Um, I do want to point out that one of of the speakers at the event made some -I don't even know I don't think I have the adjectives to describe it -just absolutely disgusting comments about Puerto Rico and Latino people. Um and the...it could change the voting blocks in this election on which Trump was trying to rely. 

One of the things that we have discussed here on the broadcast and that [Trump has been] playing to a Latino male base in the hopes of drumming up conservative Latino votes in favor of his election. Um, and I know for many of us there have been [statements about] who's who's a an appropriate immigrant to the United States and who isn't and whether or not a human being's value depends on how they came to the United States.

[....]

Within an hour of of those comments at this rally, um, Geraldo, no less Geraldo Rivera, right, who I will point out endorsed Kamala Harris two weeks ago,  but nonetheless is a longtime Fox News commentator, obviously Latino American himself [posted a response online]. I was actually shocked by the language that he used in in attacking and responding, justifiably so of course, to the remarks at this particular rally.  Essentially, um, he -I mean- he dropped a straight F-bomb on Twitter about it and encouraged Latino men to, um, act from a place of self-respect and refuse to vote for Trump. Um, that ,in and of itself, is was an extraordinary statement from a noted conservative Latino figure.

All right, then on top of it, we had celebrities like Bad Bunny[who has] 45 something million followers on Instagram posting in favor of Kamala Harris and against Donald Trump. Literally, I think it was within like 25 minutes of the statements that happened at Madison Square Garden [that] J. Lo, Ricky Martin, [two] very prominent Latino celebrities, coming out and just slamming what happened last night.

And I have to say that, you know, to me the impact that that [this] is likely to have on on people who, uh, who maybe were not invested or who maybe were thinking of leaning Trump inside that demographic- I think that story has largely- [I] can't ever say 100%, but largely come to an end as a result of what happened last night on top of that. 

We [also] had some incredibly vitriolic disgusting anti-black racist tropes given voice too last night at this rally. And, again, I have to point out that there's been a long discussion inside the various demographics and voting blocks and commentators over the last couple of weeks about why there appeared to be a slight swing from bl.. by black men to Trump.

[...] 

Whatever it was that folks were concerned about with regard to Black men in very small percentages migrating in favor of trump I think that story is also coming to an end.

Um, we saw just again insane anti-Semitism last night, absolutely malignant xenophobia. Um and you know, of course, targeting, as always, of LGBTQ+ Americans. 

Again, I just, I have to say that I think this entire event is going to backfire dramatically on the very
limited marginalized communities that Trump was trying to drum up court within. I I think that story is over"...

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Selected comments from this podcast's discussion thread:

October 28, 2024

1. artmusicfoodlifelive1685
"bad bunny endorsement is equivalent to Taylor swift in Latino music...bad bunny dominate global music in 2020,21,22  only Taylor swift stream more than him in 2023...he dominate Taylor swift in 2020,21,22...so he have power...right now in Puerto Rico he endorse a political party  that before his endorse Harly get 5% of pr popular vote...since his endorsement that party have 29% of popular vote in last poll....that is crazy...dude can move people. bad bunny fans are loyal like Taylor fans...this big for kamala"

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2. heyma310
"Well, I want to say thank you to the speakers last night for opening their big mouths and saying the quiet part out loud on a big stage where everyone could hear you. There is no doubt what they plan to do and no mistake.   On another note, there are still concerns that some states will refuse to certify the election. That suggests that Harris/Walz will win those states because why else refuse to certify. I'm not an expert but doesn't that mean that on Jan 6, those states will have no electors? I guess some of the remaining magas in congress can challenge the certifications but they won't be able to change the results. I think the bigger danger will be the obvious (and not so obvious) tampering with voter registrations and ballots. We know that state governments are on high alert and are stopping these efforts. They may try to suggest that fraud is rampant but evidence shows that they are committing the fraud. It's not long now. Keep breathing. Keep focused. Lead with your heart and allow yourself to feel in advance the joy that will follow electing Madam President."

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3. @LuisTorres-qz5kr
"I am a 66 yr old Puertorican (now living in the US) and I must say it has been a hard day for me after watching the initial videos of this rally. I love my island and I love the US. Though not a state, we are US citizens from birth. My father served as part of the 65th Infantry Div during the Korean war, my oldest brother served with the Air Force 3 tours during Vietnam, 2 other brothers retired from the Army (including 1 in Special Forces). About 236,000 Puerto Ricans registered for the draft for World War I, and many have given their lives for this country through all these wars.  On the other hand, Trump's grandfather dodged the military service in Germany and fled to the US as an emigrant. Trump's father Fred was a racist that discriminated against many blacks and Puertoricans in NY.  Then ("bone-spurs") Trump dodged the military service in the US. That so called "comedian" along with Trump are 2 pieces HIT.  The Trump family has not done anything for this country, and he has been feeding BULLSH-T* to all the republicans. Though we grew up poor, yet, I put my family up against the Trump's anytime when it comes to honor and decency, along with caring for others. I am still fuming over these racist, fascists ....POS."
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*This word is fully spelled out in this comment.

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SOURCE #3
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sw227bIK_Y "Comedian's remarks about Puerto Rico during Trump rally at Madison Square Garden spark backlash", published by Eyewitness News ABC7NY, Oct 27, 2024  #trump #msg #puertorico

Joe Torres has the details on the comments that sparked backlash.

Read More: https://abc7ny.com/post/madison-squar.

Selected comments from this video's discussion thread:

Oct 28, 2024

1. @cylr5159
"didnt come from trump's mouth. not changing my vote"

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2. @markayalewis
"But it does reflect on trump"

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3. @bigpunisher4483
"I seriously was going to vote for Trump but after this forget it!"

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4. @baevan-ni3fw
"Wow he don't know that the Latino community is not going to go for this!"

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5. @romalynnmarie2147
"For those who don’t know and are oblivious to how things work. Puerto Rico is a PART of the U.S. unlike Mexicans, Canadians and a bunch of others they DONT need papers, they DONT need visas or green cards, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE FOR THE PRESIDENT(if living in the u.s) . they have EVERY RIGHT that an American has. This lost trump around 35%-40% of voters. To those who think that they don’t need the Puerto Ricans Vite for the win let me tell you YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG.

The comments I have seen just let’s me know how many people SHOULD NOT VOTE. Speaking without knowing how The U.S and Puerto Rico are basically one is stupid. They share the same money, same president, same language, and same laws."

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6. @dennisvera2802
"THAT STATEMATE  WAS HEARD IN FLORIDA  THAT COULD SHIFT THE BALANCE."

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7. @carolinatxan
"Did the democrats hire that guy"

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8. @donscott6431
"This guy HAD to be a HARRIS plant. So what else is new…"

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9. @MB-wz1fv
"Every single Puerto Rican should be outraged , and then they should go vote for Kamala Harris."

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10.@karenfrizzell-wn7ve
"What a distasteful and ignorant rally"

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11. @brockdietrich1152
"Idiot it was a joke"

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12. @RT-ig5cs
"@brockdietrich1152  a joke right? I'm glad that joke came out because it will backfire!!πŸ˜…"

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13. @independent4life767
"And yet Trump has called America a garbage can! Vote Blue for ALL our BROTHERS AND SISTERS across the nation!!"

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14. 
@trinigirlxxx
"Hate rally. So sad for USA"

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15. @davebonar1
"So he said something not right , that makes it a hate rally and people aren't going to vote because of this ? You are really dumb."

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16. @bsting601
"@davebonar1  You obviously miss the whole rally then !"

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17. 
@GrandmaLoves2Scuba
"Boy, when Dump sticks his foot in it, he really sticks his foot in it.

Thank you Dump for working so hard to get VP Harris elected! 🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊"

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18.@loulou-g3u
"This guy is a loser, and what he said wasn't even funny. But to single this out as the only outrageous thing that was said at this 5 hour moron-fest is completely off-base. It was speaker after speaker saying deranged, unhinged nonsenese. Completely embarrassing"

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19. 
@drewa1999
"This is terrible, but let these clearly heartless and racist morons continue to self destruct their campaign of hate."

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20. 
@LisaForTruth
"Sure, Trump. If the joke doesn't reflect your views, why'd you let the person speak? Your mask has been slipping, and what's underneath is ugly.

Vote blue for America!!

🌊🌊"

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21. @RobwrtoLopez-i4h
"What he doesnt know is that we PUERTORICANS vote and we will not vote for TRUMP ever"

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22. @darkside7802
"Cry harder."

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23. @math4life95
"@darkside7802  Bro, I'm with you.  I want more of  Trump's sycophants to say even more ethnic and racial jokes.  Those jokes can only help Trump win because all those people mentioned in those jokes totally love it (they actually want more of it) and will DEFINITELY all be voting for Trump.  LOL!"

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24. @
BlimpCityFeeder
"Tony’s joke was so bad #45 had to do damage control. Good opportunity for Aida Rodriguez & other Boricua comics to test their material about Tony, since it’s just jokes after all."

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25. 
@DjFico238
"What a stupid comedian...Thanks to that Trump would lose a lot of votes from the Puerto Rican community..."

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26. @MrIzzy11B
"Hey dummy, watch 49 seconds of his whole remarks"

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27. @DjFico238
"@MrIzzy11B  is not only me who is upset about this..there is a lot of Republicans that said his joke was stupid and wrong..he or Trump need to apologize for if they don't Trump would lose the support of the Puerto Rican community..in USA live millions of Puerto Ricans that can vote if l can guarantee you that they would not vote for Trump"

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28. @Whatitisss
"This guy just killed it for trump"

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29. @tselengbotlhole750
"Great"

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30. @donnaarsenoff8399
"Hope so."

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31. @naturistfred
"Trump's campaign doesn't vet the speeches? Give me a break. They knew he was gonna say that racist joke and it backfired, as it should have."

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SOURCE #4
From 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDIR_y7hhEo "Trump Campaign PANICS on Monday after MSG DISASTER" , published by MeidasTouch, October 28, 2024 4:00 PM EDT,

Selected comments from this podcast's discussion thread.

October 28, 2024

1.@AnnieBland-x7u
"We should be thanking trump and his campaigner managers for hiring this comedian... It shows PURE stupidity on every level"

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2. @yamgemy
"If it’s a joke then why puerto ricans aren’t laughing?”

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3. @allisonjames2923
“Mind you, it even backfired with them.  Very few of them cheered or laughed at that”

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@ilovecatsandsynths9702
4. “I think those who laughed did so not because the joke was funny, as it wasn’t, but more of a “I can’t believe he actually said that” sort of laugh. 🀒”

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5. @ReginaEarley
"I don't believe that.  There were boos mingled with the applause.  The 'comedian' even appeared uneasy after that faux pas!"

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6. @ReginaEarley
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Some Republicans made statements of disgust last night!"

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7. @JimMerritt-cu9pd
"Thanks Tony. You just sunk Trump. We love it.keep it up."

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8. 
@zappadallure
"What's truly hilarious, is that this comedian may well have driven the final nail into Trump's coffin, ensuring that he'll lose the election and face his trials!  There are 100's of thousands of Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania, which is crucial to electing our next President.  Welcome to the Whitehouse Kamala!"

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9. @zappadallure
"And the desperation and hypocrisy in MAGA attempting to defend this is ridiculous."

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10. @geoffreybrooks1220
"And don’t forget losing Puerto Rican and other Latino voters in Florida. Yes, there is a sizeable Puerto rican population there."

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11. @Judy-n3m
"NEW YORK is also full of Puerto Ricans."

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12@grumpykat2909
"Florida has the largest population of Puerto Ricans in the U.S. with an estimated of 1.2 million.   Republican Senator Rick Scott can thank Tony Hinchcliffe for his racist Puerto Rico joke.   Karma is a biatch. πŸ€£πŸ˜‚"

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13. @marshak6837
"All these MAGA are complete buffoons. But hey, thanks for solidifying your loss."

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14. @richardrose9943
"And you don’t think he was a plant?"

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15. @Sirissssss
"​ @richardrose9943 ha ha. He was recommended by baron trump just as baron suggested trump do Joe Rogan.  Trump wanted to involve younger people and he took.barons suggestions..lol"

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16. @anitadees4223
"@richardrose9943  Of course not.  Hinchcliffe said exactly what Trump wanted him to say.  A campaign rally by a Presidential candidate isn't an open mic at a local night spot."

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17. @anitadees4223
"@Sirissssss  Or Trump took a page out of Ted Cruz's playbook and started blaming the kid for his own screw-up."

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18. @joestratton3981
"That was the final nail in the coffin......"

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19. 
@stephendetlefs4878
"The issue is they think this is over only 1 of the jokes"

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20. @colinkelly8051
"It wasn’t just one joke, he made a racist about a black friend carving a watermelon."

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21. @Arational
"You don't get to open for Trump without the Trump team knowing what you are going to say.

The insults were intended."

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22. @JennyLouLou
"Exactly. It was very calculated and planned out."

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23. 
@anitadees4223
"You are right.  Hinchcliffe only said what Trump wanted him to say."

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24. @jt_lancer
"Someone on the campaign approved those jokes"

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25. @mariankeith2882
"Why do his supporters keep saying it was ONE joke!  It was not.  It was a rant"

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26. @audreyburdelle6557
"No one can "sane wash" last night's hateful rally. The campaign should be panicking.πŸ˜‚"

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27. @lizbmusic11
"How can anyone be undecided now! This was the most disgusting event of the campaign. I hope it loses him the election!!!!!"

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Saturday, October 26, 2024

Are Black Men Voting For Donald Trump For United States President? (2024)

 Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post presents some YouTube discussion thread comments about Black men voting in 2024 for Donald Trump for President of the United States. 

The content of this post is presented for historical, socio-cultural, and political purposes.


All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.  
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVTO5J2YqdY " Warnock: NO WAVE Of Black Male Trump Support, Black Men Will Turn Out for Harris"

published by Roland S. Martin, Oct 25, 2024  #RolandMartinUnfiltered #BlackStarNetwork #BringTheFunk

Sen. Raphael Warnock: "There will be no Black male wave of Trump support, Black men will turn out for Vice President Kamala Harris."

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTES:

Most of these commenters have accompanying photographs. All of the comments that have accompanying photographs are of a Black man or a Black woman. It's very likely that most if not all of those commenters are Black Americans.

The total views for this video as of Oct.26,2024 at 9:42 AM EDT = 32,899

The total comments in this video's discussion thread as of Oct.26,2024 at 9:42 AM EDT = 507

All of these comments are from October 25, 2024 or October 26, 2024. 

These comments are presented in relative chronological order with the oldest comments given first except for replies.

Numbers are added for referencing purposes. 

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1. @tribesofisrael897
"We're actually gonna sit this one out. The new era blackman need tangibles"

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2. @Dashdaddy1
"If tRumps gets in, you won't have a couch to sit on. You might have a cot in an internment camp!"

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3. @blakely1976
"
Well, those tangibles start with educating yourself on how our government works. You must start with your local and state-level politicians to see the tangibles you want!"

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4. @DarmokAtTanagra
"warnock speaks to 6000 people weekly and represents a state with millions of people, who are you speaking for besides yourself, exactly? tribes of israel huh bc Black folks are so into Hebrew scripture"

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5. @Swansong-recorders
"That's a slick way of saying your a coward"

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6. @Swansong-recorders
"Your saying your a COWARD we got it"

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7. @tribesofisrael897
"
@Swansong-recorders  I said no such thing. What am I voting for silly rabbit?"

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8. @tribesofisrael897
"@DarmokAtTanagra  You sound so silly. Stick to a topic πŸ™„"

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9. @tribesofisrael897
"@Dashdaddy1  These scare tactics don't work anymore. It's time for a change. We have to show them how important our vote is. πŸ’―"

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10. @phillipjonesiii8788
"@
Dashdaddy1  like what we are experiencing now under Scamala harris.  Lmao"

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11. @phillipjonesiii8788
"
@DarmokAtTanagra  lmao"

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12. @markwilliams6378
"
Aww. In your feelings are you?  we'll see when project 2025 hits and  the Jim Crow era comes back if you'll benefit any at all"

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13. @rtistik
"
No one should sit anything out. Voting matters it's either live in democracy and freedom or dictatorship pick one the choice is very clear."

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14. @tribesofisrael897
"
@rtistik   My perspective is from a group of people that's already at the bottom, so this means nothing. This so-called democracy isn't doing anything for us. You see, if you're not demanding something for your vote, then why would they care? Your candidate should be offering a solution to your problems.πŸ˜‰ If the power stays in the hands of the same system and power structure, is it really democracy? πŸ€”"

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15. @
rtistik
"@tribesofisrael897  So what are you looking for then what is it that you would want that will better you."

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16. @rohangibbs3267
"@Dashdaddy1 facts ❤"

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17. @stacypinkney1650
"@tribesofisrael897  You are supposed to be a Grown Azz Man so Fix Your Owm Problems and STOP looking for the Government to do it for You! Smdh."

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18. @timothy8766
"@rtistik blah blah blah"

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19. @rtistik
"@timothy8766  Really"

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20. @timothy8766
"@stacypinkney1650 even if I agree with you that's an argument to vote Republican"

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21. @stacypinkney1650
"@timothy8766  do you! Lol"

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22. @Swansong-recorders
"@tribesofisrael897  you said you were going sit under the bed crying"

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23. @tribesofisrael897
"@Swansong-recorders  πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚"

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24. @tribesofisrael897
"
@stacypinkney1650  You obviously don't know the purpose of government and politicians. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚"

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25. @tribesofisrael897
"
@rtistik  Reparations!!"

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26. @joycejohnson9760
"Trump is bringing tangibles?? Stop and Frisk on steroids against Black men and the community!!! Trump cares about himself, money and his buddies, the billionaires and millionaires. I haven’t heard him promise one (1) tangible to Black men or women. But, to each their own. Blessings to all."

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27. @phillipjonesiii8788
"Yall stupid.  Lol harris is a non black clown.  Her policy is an opportunity economy , you getting the opportunity to work your butt off trying to live. πŸ˜…"

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28. @StunRichardson
"Ps inflation is world wide I went to the Philippines and Australia it's bad there too!! You needs to realize it's a manmade system made by imperfect men!! So what do you expect!!!"

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29. @beatriceholland7581
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Something like what your doing now the difference is she is going to make it better for all"

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30. @phillipjonesiii8788
"​@beatriceholland7581  by doing what? πŸ˜… what she's doing now? What she didn't do the past 4 years? Your quality of life improved?"

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31. @carolg8535
"@phillipjonesiii8788  - yes, it did.., and I don't fear being tossed into an internment camp. πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ’™πŸ’™"

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32. @demarkusokoye2595
"Does her race really matter to you..."

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33. @demarkusokoye2595
"Please provide Trump's economic plan we can compare"

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34. @virtuouslady5679
"
phillipjonesiii8788  get a life and leave folks alone...you are very silly."

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35. @virtuouslady5679
"@demarkusokoye2595  a concept of a plan...πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ˜†πŸ˜†πŸ˜†"

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36. @virtuouslady5679
"@demarkusokoye2595 Amen..."

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37. @matthewlockhart6159
"She is black. Her father is Afro-Caribbean (Jamaican). She is an AKA member who graduated from Howard and proudly identifies as being Black."

"I’m black, and I’m proud of being black. I was born black. I will die black, and I’m not going to make excuses for anybody because they don’t understand.” - Kamala, 2019

Also, she's the VP of the administration with the lowest Black unemployment rate in the last 50 years."

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38. @manuelpaul1451
"
trump was driving the clown car when it crashed January 6 2020, I vote trump for jail"

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39. @markcepeda8144
"phillipjonesiii8788  take off those gold sneakers and red hats clown look πŸ€₯πŸ€₯πŸ€₯πŸ€₯mug tee shirts too"

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40. @markcepeda8144
"@phillipjonesiii8788  mendacious trump said he likes the poorly educated we see why!!!!!!!...πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰πŸ‘ŠπŸ’™"

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41. @phillipjonesiii8788
"@carolg8535  πŸ€£ when is the last time you have seen a camp?  Research is a hell of a drug."

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42. @phillipjonesiii8788
"
@markcepeda8144   classic... lmfao"

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43. @phillipjonesiii8788
"@markcepeda8144  i love people that think they are educated. πŸ€£"

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44. @markcepeda8144
"@phillipjonesiii8788  go to Russia with duplicitous don the con Putin needs  the help.πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰πŸ‘πŸ’™πŸ’™"

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45. @markcepeda8144
"@phillipjonesiii8788 then you should try to be educated!!!.  πŸ˜πŸ˜send back the trump2$bill ok. πŸ˜πŸ‘πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™"

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46. @thehoboman
"I wish the mainstream media would stop treating us like fools. We all know the vast majority of black people don't mess with Trump."

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47. @iamlegend8571
"True, and that Black men see through the disrespect of the Democrats also... I'm sitting this one out too. πŸ˜€"

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48. @almazlarsen215
"​@iamlegend8571 what black disrespect of blacks did the democrats do ? Sitting it out is a vote for drumpf πŸ’™πŸ—³"

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49. @christenasmalls6118
"I really do not care what the media says or not say.  This is the USA we know our history here and understand the totality.  We are and have forever been intricate to the American experience.  We are so very powerful even though we are only 45 million, though we are not Elon Musk they want to limit our power.  It cannot be done."

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50. @Dewdrops7560
"@almazlarsen215 It's a bot, keep scrolling."

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51. @iamlegend8571
"@almazlarsen215  So be it. We survived when he won the first time, and guess what? We'll survive if he is elected again. We survived 100s of years slavery, Jim Crow and institutional racism. The Lack of respect from the party is from benign neglect... And if you can't or WON'T see it, I got nothing for you. πŸ€·πŸΎ‍♂️"

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52. @EricPhillips879
"this!"

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53. @thehoboman
"@iamlegend8571  disengaging from the political process is the worst possible thing you can do to further the black agenda.. you need to vote in all elections, local and national, if you're unsatisfied with the candidates then get involved and try running for local offices.. it's wild to not vote then complain about getting respect.."

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54. @iamlegend8571
"@thehoboman  Oh I vote local, cause I deal with those politicians and they directly effect me. This national ticket is more about the Democratic party and their lack of respect for me as a black man and the "assumption" that they don't HAVE to talk to me, send Barack out to "chastise us" & I will "fall in line" cause, where you gonna go?-mentality needs to be checked. You gon learn today as Kevin Hart once said. πŸ˜"

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55. @twiladavis1516
"@iamlegend8571 NOOOOOO MOOOORE NEXT TIME"

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56. @thehoboman
"@iamlegend8571  Your logic on this is deeply flawed.  But do you."

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57. @chs1111
"@iamlegend8571  respect yourself, your heritage, the ancestors-all those Black folks who had to pay a poll tax, answer questions in order to vote-, lived through Jim Crow- if you don't want to vote for yourself-vote for the future, for our Black children!"

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58. @iamlegend8571
"@chs1111  Miss me with that. Voting blindly and for being disrespected is NOT what my forefathers believed in. You can let people treat & talk to YOU like a child but it ain't happening my way. Sometimes you GOT TO "stand on business". πŸ˜"

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59. @iamlegend8571
"@thehoboman  Please enlighten me on why I should ignore blatant disrespect and benign neglect by a party that DEMANDS I give my vote regardless... I'll listen. πŸ€”"

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60. @makebawatson3264
"@iamlegend8571  So Glad,Martin, Coretta,John and Rosa didn’t think like you, or we would still be FORCED to sit this one out. πŸ€¦πŸ»πŸ™„"

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61. @joyhowe1209
"@iamlegend8571 demand respect with your vote. Sitting out is a lame duck excuse."

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62. @jamesjones4309
"Vote Blue and ignore the trolls. We already know who the kok votes for."

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63. @jamesjones4309
"@iamlegend8571 if your not voting blue then your post is definitely trolling. Are you listening to Rev."

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64. @Gy9600
"@iamlegend8571  You  surely  need to WAKE UP and stop being so overly sensitive and overly dramatic.πŸ€”"

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65. @iamlegend8571
"@Gy9600  If that's what it takes for respect, I'll be that... You should try having some respect(if you are a Black man and not a beta, like being scolded by Obama man), it's refreshing. πŸΎ"

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66. @iamlegend8571
"@joyhowe1209   Been doing that for over 20 years, Democratic party has been taking my vote for granted over time. πŸ˜’"

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67. @iamlegend8571
"@jamesjones4309  Now I'm trolling cause I explained my issue? That's weak my brother. Nothing I've said is remotely close to trolling. πŸ€¨"

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68. @joyhowe1209
"@iamlegend8571  these times are seriously critical.      You're in ICU now not knowing  if you'll  come out of it."

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69. @joyhowe1209
"@thehoboman  or big dummies"

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70. @iamlegend8571
"@joyhowe1209  Oh yeah? Hmmm... That's what I heard back in 2016 when the Orange idiot was first elected so, for a dead man I'm still kicking, I see. πŸ€£"

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71. @Gy9600
"@iamlegend8571  Yea, whatever lost, deaf  blind sheep.πŸ€”"

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72. "rhondatucker1783
"They don't, however we have family members that are Black men that are lost. So, yes they are important to us. There are the ones out there who STILL do NOT want a woman, ESPECIALLY of color to move to this office. WE know this, regardless of the 'vast majority'. It's still not ok."

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73. @STORMBOUND2012
"I'm a black male, most are voting for Trump. Prepare to be disappointed in November πŸ€·πŸΏ‍♂️"

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74. @KalT-f3y
"Fathers, Grandfathers, Husbands, Kings, Sons, Brothers, Uncles, Godfathers, and Nephews please GET OUT AND VOTE FOR OUR CONTINUED FREEDOMS. By not voting, you're casting your vote in favor of Trump. We need you.

WE CAN NOT GO BACK!  Vote for Freedom. Vote For VP HarrisπŸ’™πŸ”΅πŸ’™"

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75. @mustlovedogs8179
"Some black people are just lost. Let ‘em go. They’ll soon learn."

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76. @twiladavis1516
"That's what I say. Fahget them"

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77. @jamesjones4309
"We will vote blue πŸ’™. We know the assignment."

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78. @GigiTruth-y3c
"because the backbone is missing. First the screamed at Obama that he should not tell them to vote for Kamala and wanted to vote for Trump, they think they have a hard time now, they will be up for a suprise. Many people regretted to have voted for Biden, you will be more sorry."

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79. @phillipjonesiii8788
"​@RonaldWilliams-lp3bg  not that I don't care,  I care more for the life of the black community and this democratic party has done nothing in our interest.  WHEN WILL WE FIGURE THIS OUT?"

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80. @joycejohnson9760
"I’m just curious. What has Trump done for the Black community??"

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81. @antav9371
"Y'all are seriously discounting the number of black people fed up with the democrat party."

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82. @SunRay629
"She will not win because she does not have the certified FBA black men vote."

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83. @aprilashby5933
"Black women will save this election"

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84. @ronedward3660
"BLACK MAN HERE!!! And it's

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈTRUMP 2024πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ for me.

Four years of Harris is the same as four more years of Biden. No thanks."

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85. @mmayetllanes8686
"But not to the one who says he wanted to be a Dictator on Day 1"

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86. @joycejohnson9760
"Enjoy that Stop & Frisk on steroids!!! Blessings to you!!"

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87. @iwjiv
"I can find fault with both candidates but after everything else Trump has done for him to reference a policy from 1798 & then say those were real politicians.  That's what he wants to restore America too & any person of color that would support him I would say "don't forget America's history." "

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88. @YarrickKincaid
"The majority of black males are voting  for Kamala…. Trust me. I’m a black male.

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89. @rodb66
"So am I and I voted for VP Harris"

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90. @nathanlewis42
"Great to hear. Btw which state are you in?"

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91. @virtuouslady5679
"yes  they are...they are waking up from the ignorant deception."

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92. @wowbigman22011
"You can’t say all of majority if you are not the census worker."

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93. @boyfriendnumber24
"Thank you for saving the lives of my sons, nephews and grandson and your life as well I cannot sleep over the fact of him wanting to get the police immunity! Can you imagine that one of our children could become the next Trayvon Martin or the next black man become another George Floyd! If they are escaping some of the accountability now, can you imagine them unleashed?"

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94. @georgeladson4403
"Right on brother"

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95. @SunRay629
"You are not a certified FBA black man."

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96. @YarrickKincaid
"@nathanlewis42  Tennessee"

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97. @rashadbeckham7141
"
Of course she will have the majority of black male votes  but compared to past Democratic nominees it’s lower how much lower I don’t know but I can tell you it’s a decent of amount of black males  who are not feeling Kamala Harris."

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98. @christophercarter2835
"Blacks boys will vote for Trump πŸ˜…πŸ˜…"

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99. @driftercloud3381
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Even if I wasn't black, I would still vote for the party of common sense which is the blue ticket."

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100. @landebanks5886
"I hope black men don't stay at home it would be a vote for Trump vote blue πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™"

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@twiladavis1516
101. "If they do so what.  πŸ€· fahget them."

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102. angelagaona2087
"Vote Kamala Harris Tim Walz πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™ Vote Blue πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™ 2024"

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103. @davidlawsr8134
"Black men will overwhelmingly vote for VP Harris. We know exactly who he is. Those brothers who vote for Tramp are voting against their own self interest. Tramp has proven he does not have the welfare of black people as a priority. His behavior and actions have shown us such. There is no comparison who is the most qualified, honest and ready to lead. No doubt that's VP Harris."

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104. @phillipjonesiii8788
"@davidlawsr8134  exactly.  Welfare state is not healthy for black people.  You like welfare?🀣"

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105. @RonaldWilliams-lp3bg
"Honestly I believe a lot of them know this and they just don't care to be honest"

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106. @georgeladson4403
"Yes they are they got to wake up"

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107. @undergroundposse610
"I dont kno where yall gettn this delusional info from we are def not voting for no Kamala only men voting for her is lost black old men who still think this is a black woman she is not ...And the black men who kno this already spoke up ..we either voting for Trump or we not voting period"

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108. @twiladavis1516
"@phillipjonesiii8788 truAmp really likes welfare while many people are wealthy"

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109. @ladyt4478
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​@phillipjonesiii8788
"To be concerned about someone's welfare means you are concerned about their physical and mental health, happiness, and well-being."

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110. @DaExpoSing1
"Not me. My whole crew all voted for Trump. My wife doesn't know. πŸ˜‚"

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111. @DaExpoSing1
"
​@undergroundposse610 exactly my wife thinks i voted for kamala"

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112. @ladyt4478
"@DaExpoSing1

Why are you sneaking to vote for him? You're not loud and proud? Seems like you know you're doing the wrong thing."

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113. @xbabu142x
"@ladyt4478  This is always the weirdest phenomena to me, grown men proud at having snuck by their significant other. I'm not sure what the custom is, but are cookies supposed to be offered in this instance?"

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114. @Az-dc4nu
"
@phillipjonesiii8788 bot talking"

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115. @Gy9600
"I casted my vote for her, and i know the black males are going to represent. GET OUT AND VOTE!! BLUE!!

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ—³πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ"

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116. @Gy9600
"@phillipjonesiii8788  Here is one right here. Who had a huge swallow of the Trump Kool-Aid.πŸ€”"

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117. @Stopit7037
"I have never met a black man in real life that said he supported Trump, I only see black male Youtubers Saying this, it is like some of these Youtubers are never outside talking to real people or have been paid off. If I’m outside with a bunch of our people at an event, a park,  a concert, A gathering at someone’s house or out in the streets in general they just randomly start telling me how much they dislike Trump and how  happy they are that Harris is running."

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118. @brianmcdew5826
"Me either it's them you-tubers that hate women of color."

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119. @kiwidreams3
"
Or they just saying what will get them clicks.  Like Fox selling their principles for the click the followers the cash."

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120. @to2768
"Yall delusional"

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121. @brianmcdew5826
"@to2768 black men vote will not decide the election. Antonio Brown as a representative of us is a slap in the face."

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122. @Doggface700
"I support him all the way from California πŸ‘ŒπŸΏπŸ‘πŸΏπŸ€žπŸΏ"

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123. @rashadbeckham7141
"I hate to tell you but this is far from the truth…."

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124. @twiladavis1516
"
@brianmcdew5826 Too many other people supporting her. Like whote people and others."

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125. @kickassets6414
"I did. Referred to himself as a Trump head. We have to mentor the youngins if it's not too late"

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126. @dwill9256
"@brianmcdew5826 yea because Meagan the stallion is better right…"

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127. @brianmcdew5826
"
@dwill9256  Antonio Brown is right LOL"

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128. @leejacks7033
"BlackMen4Trump2024 ExDemocrat"

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129. @coreygatling9924
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Its just for clout"

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130. @ArtGalleryArts
"Republican voting for a sane, intelligent, compassionate, energetic younger leaders Harris / Walz Nov 5 2024πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ’―

No to senile trump, narcissistic Old deranged man. Period."

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131. @juanlynwilliams7500
"
I Declare & Decree we shall Overcome, I Believe in our Black Men and I Believe in the United States of America, Liberty and Justice For All!"

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132. @laneymoses2277
"I Hope  That  Black Men Would Do Their Homework(Research)  And  Check  ✅️  All The Boxes .PLEASE  DON'T  GO BACK ‼️"

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134. @valeriawalker4360
"The only black men voting for Trump, are lost,confused and agsinst women in power. Then thrre are those crying about those she convicted for committing crime's πŸ˜‚.  What she gonna do for us really!! They need to be ssking what can I do for myself?"

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135. @Jhorne84
"Sorry, but who tf are you to tell black men what to do?"

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136. @ladyt4478
"
​@Jhorne84

There is no need to get hostile.

We all have free will and ultimately we will use it. If it doesn't apply, let it fly. ❤"

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137. @Jhorne84
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@ladyt4478  Thank you for that. But at this point, it is time to get hostile when ppl make these remarks. I’m tired of people attacking black men for not “falling in line!”

I deal with this crap from my family. We hear it on social media and the world stage."

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138. @riahnation4655
"
I know so many black men that are voting for Trump it's so confusing and disappointing smh BE WISE AND VOTE BLUE πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸ’™"

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139. @phillipjonesiii8788
"@riahnation4655  you ever felt like you were going down the wrong way in a one way street?🀣"

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140. @VictoriaT-c6m
"I was thinking that facts.There is not a lot of black men for trump"

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141. @phillipjonesiii8788
"@VictoriaT-c6m  you really believe that statement?. Lmao"

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142. @GraceDavis-sp1ey
"Most black men are too smart to vote for Trump."

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143. @raishaferreira8099
"ty

πŸŒŽπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ’™"

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144. virtuouslady5679
"@GraceDavis-sp1ey  AMEN"

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145. @phillipjonesiii8788
"@GraceDavis-sp1ey  and you are a black man?"

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146. @casscart1
"Did you talk to all the black men?? πŸ€”"

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147. @GraceDavis-sp1ey
"@casscart1   only the smart ones! πŸ˜„✌️"

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148. @GraceDavis-sp1ey
"@phillipjonesiii8788  no, but having been in the military and having worked in law enforcement I have been exposed to MANY men not just black and the majority have told me that they would never vote for Trump and WHY. Many white Republican males have either been never Trumpers or they were one and done. So where you may be responding as one male I have had these conversations over the last eight years with MANY men, black and white as well as Latino."

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149. @phillipjonesiii8788
"@GraceDavis-sp1ey  wow. I am a retired BLACK Marine,  quite the opposite over here."

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150. @casscart1
"@GraceDavis-sp1ey  NOT! You're so delusional πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€ͺ"

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151. @casscart1
"@GraceDavis-sp1ey  My family is mostly military. My dad-Marine 2 brothers - retired Airman and Army Me - Army 2 sons - actively serving Airman- 12yrs(lifer) Navy -:submarine sonar tech. All black men are voting blue. We're NYers, and we know the real deal. So no you haven't spoke with the smart ones..."

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152. @TimHowald
"Every single young black adult I have talked to is voting for Trump why are they not getting the information they need from the black community"

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153. @mgv423
"Dump the crook Trump and send him to prison already"

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154. @brandoforbesmusic
"All of sudden black men votes are so important. Do they come at any other group like they are doing black men? Hell No!"

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155. @cornelisdebilde6850
"Americans Against the Republican Party! It is embarrassing to live in a country where Donald Trump is even being president!"

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156. @Hogan-m3w
"lawdy lawdy I vote demcrat cause dey give us chicken feed and section 8. dey is my people"

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157. @brianmcdew5826
"I'm voting for Kamala. Trump has surrounded himself with White Supremacist Steve Bannon, Jeff Sessions,
I cannot support a white Nationalist"

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158. @ped200014
"jeff sessions? you might be a decade out of date there sport."

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159. @brianmcdew5826
"
@ped200014  he was Trumps Attorney General Donald until he was fired by Trump for
not following Trumps evil agendas. You don't know about that because you're Japanese. Do some research before commenting you make an A$$ of yourself."

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160. @johnomelia2991
"Whew!!! We ain’t going back! ✊"

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161. @ped200014
"back to affordable groceries and prosperity?"

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162. @onceagain6184
"Trump is correct about illegal immigration!!!"

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163. @suckerfree7536
"She choose her white husband and I will choose my white president"

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164.@KevinHenderson-r4v
"This is what happens when people worship the color of their skin.

One of the biggest threats to the Democrat party is African Americans waking up & seeing how the Democrats have destroyed inner city America with policies that promote poverty & government dependency.

Mayor/City Council/chief of police all elected Democrats.

All American cities are in terrible condition

Detroit/Balt/Philadelphia/Chicago"

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165. @bigredone9990
"Trump will have a big WAVE, yep weπŸ‘‹ will give trump a big wave. Goodbye, on Nov 5th, see ya never πŸ‘‹"

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Thursday, October 24, 2024

The History Behind The Children's Recreational Rhyme "Benjamin Franklin Went To France" (with commentary, information, video, and examples)



HistoryPod, October 25, 2023
Franklin was a notable figure in the Continental Congress and was one of the Committee of Five that drafted the Declaration of Independence. At the time of its signing the Thirteen Colonies and Great Britain had been at war for more than a year, and the Patriots were in need of foreign support. France had already been secretly providing weapons and other essential equipment to fight the British, but a more formal agreement was desirable. On October 26, Franklin departed for France as commissioner for the newly-named United States. Accompanied by his 16-year-old grandson who served as his secretary, his primary aim was to secure essential diplomatic and financial support. Franklin's tenure in France, which lasted for nearly nine years, was marked by significant achievements. He was quickly welcomed into French society, and forged connections with important government officials. However the French Foreign Minister, Comte de Vergennes, was unwilling to formally commit to the American cause until Washington’s victory at the Battle of Saratoga in October 1777 demonstrated that the United States had the potential to win. On February 6, 1778, France formally allied with the American colonies when they signed the Treaty of Amity and Commerce and the Treaty of Alliance. This alliance brought much-needed military aid, including troops, naval support, and supplies that eventually led to the American victory at Yorktown in 1781. Franklin later negotiated and signed the Treaty of Paris which formally concluded the seven-year struggle. **** Edited by Azizi Powell This pancocojams post presents historical information about the American historic figure Benjamin Franklin. This post also presents an example of the English language children's recreational rhyme "Benjamin Franklin Went To France" and my theory that the history of Benjamin Franklin in France inspired and/or preserves a portion of that history. The Addendum to this post presents examples of variants of that rhyme that substitute another famous person's name for the name "Benjamin Franklin". The content of this post is presented for historical and recreational. and educational purposes.

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Thanks to Benjamin Franklin for his legacy. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the producer and publisher of this embedded video.

**** PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE The mission of this pancocojams blog is to document and share aspects and examples of African American and other Black cultures throughout the world. However, this pancocojams post, and some other pancocojams posts about children's recreational rhymes and children's singing games shouldn't be construed to mean or suggest that these showcased rhymes originated with Black people. One connection to Black culture and this post exists because undoubtedly some Black children have chanted and performed movements to this rhyme. Another connection to Black culture exists because I'm a Black American woman who is interested in collecting, researching, and sharing English language children's recreational rhymes from the United States and/or from other nations. **** INFORMATION ABOUT BENJAMIN FRANKLIN
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin
"Benjamin Franklin (January 17, 1706 [O.S. January 6, 1705][Note 1] – April 17, 1790) was an American polymath: a leading writer, scientist, inventor, statesman, diplomat, printer, publisher and political philosopher.[1] Among the most influential intellectuals of his time, Franklin was one of the Founding Fathers of the United States; a drafter and signer of the Declaration of Independence; and the first postmaster general.[2]"... **** ARTICLE EXCERPT ABOUT BENJAMIN FRANKLIN IN FRANCE From https://www.history.com/news/benjamin-franklin-france "Ben Franklin in Paris: How He Won France’s Support for the Revolutionary War"

As colonists faced tough odds in the Revolutionary War, America's first diplomat worked his charm to win France's vital backing.

By: Dave Roos, March 20, 2024
"The Founding Fathers may have been idealistic about Enlightenment principles like “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness,” but they were deeply realistic about the chances of a scrappy, underfunded colonial army to defeat the wealthy and powerful British Empire.

To win the Revolution, America needed allies, but more importantly it needed manpower, munitions and a lot of money.

That’s how 70-year-old Benjamin Franklin—famed inventor, publisher and elder statesman of the Continental Congress—found himself sailing to France in October of 1776. Although a monarchy itself, France was America’s best hope for backing the colonists in their bid for freedom from Great Britain, France’s perennial rival.

Franklin spent the next nine years in Paris as America’s first foreign ambassador. Without Franklin’s celebrity status, savvy networking abilities and unapologetic Francophilia, the American Revolution would almost certainly have failed. Instead, Franklin convinced France to nearly bankrupt its own government in order to ensure American independence.

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A Celebrity on a Secret Mission

In accepting his mission to France, Franklin put his life on the line. Not only was the Atlantic crossing treacherous for all of the normal reasons—stormy seas, shipboard illnesses, piracy—but Franklin was also sailing as a traitor. By signing the Declaration of Independence just months earlier, Franklin would have been hanged if captured by the British Navy.

Franklin survived the arduous journey—his seventh trans-Atlantic crossing—and arrived in Paris as a bona fide 18th-century celebrity.

“Franklin was the most famous American in the world,” says biographer Stacy Schiff. “He was the discoverer of electricity, a man of genius, a successor to Newton and Galileo. He also counted among the greatest celebrities in Paris; he could not walk through the street without attracting a crowd.”

Franklin’s unmistakeable image—wearing glasses and a fur cap instead of a wig—was embossed on collectible candy dishes, stitched into clothing and engraved into snuff boxes and walking sticks.

[…]

While Franklin himself was famous, most French people knew nothing about the American Colonies or their politics. Even foreign ambassadors stationed in France had no idea why the famed scientist had come to Paris.

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Bluffing His Way to an Alliance

For his first 18 months in Paris, Franklin was in a difficult position. The Continental Army suffered a string of defeats and it wasn’t at all clear that the Americans had a fighting chance. Versailles was quietly supportive of the Revolution, but the French crown couldn’t risk backing the wrong horse and getting ensnared in another losing war with England.

So Franklin did something that his younger American colleagues found incredibly frustrating—he played the waiting game. Now in his 70s, Franklin had little to prove and was in no hurry to prove it. Instead of banging on the door of the French foreign minister, the Count de Vergennes, Franklin attended salons with influential aristocrats and engaged in a very French, very laissez-faire charm offensive.

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Franklin lived a type of double life. To outside observers, he was the quintessential cultured French gentleman, the type who arrived appropriately late for appointments and greeted unexpected guests with wine and unrushed conversation. But in private, Franklin put in 14-hour days, often waking in the middle of the night to finish piles of paperwork.

Franklin was so good at making hard work look easy that he fooled even his American colleagues into thinking he was more interested in flirting with French widows than laboring for the Revolution.

[…]

“Nothing could have been more critical to our Revolution than that affection,” says Schiff. “Every other American envoy who approached Versailles bungled along the way. Franklin was inventing the foreign service out of whole cloth. And he was, as we know from so many other realms, a brilliant inventor.

Franklin was almost 80 when he crossed the Atlantic a final time and returned to a Philadelphia he hardly recognized. America had changed immensely in the nine years he was laboring abroad, and that included a new generation of politicians. Franklin had hoped to receive some compensation for his difficult mission—as others had—but Congress didn’t want to dwell on the debt America owed to France.

"The French mission had been, hands down, the most taxing assignment of Franklin’s life,” says Schiff. “Congress never offered a settling of accounts, a reward, or so much as a single syllable of thanks.”

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BENJAMIN FRANKLIN WENT TO FRANCE [children's rhyme]
Benjamin Franklin went to France

To teach the ladies how to dance.

First the heel, and then the toe,

Spin around and out you go.

https://globaltoynews.com/2023/04/18/jump-rope-chants-are-they-becoming-extinct/

Jump Rope Chants; Are They Becoming Extinct?

by Global Toy News Posted on April 18, 2023
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The words for the children's rhyme "Benjamin Franklin Went France" are very stable with no changes. For instance,  the original (?) words "spin around" are used in every example that I came across on the internet instead of "turn around".  Also, I haven't found any extensions (usually consisting of lines from other stand alone rhymes) that are added to the words for the basic "Benjamin Franklin Went To France" rhyme.  The lack of variant words for the basic rhyme and the lack of extensions are very unusual in contemporary (1960s on) English language children's rhymes. Notice the differences in the three examples of "Charlie Chaplin Went To France" that are showcased in this post's Addendum.

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ADDENDUM- "CHARLIE CHAPLIN WENT TO FRANCE" AND SOME OTHER VARIANTS OF THE RHYME "BENJAMIN FRANKLIN WENT TO FRANCE"
I haven't come across any authors for these "__ Went To France" rhymes or any documented date for when any of these rhymes were first chanted. I'm guessing that "Benjamin Franklin Went To France" is the original title of these rhymes because the history of Benjamin Franklin's role as "party going" celebrity in France explains the words of this rhyme. That's not the case with the other celebrities whose name is given in their versions of this rhyme. .   

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The following quotes are given in no particular order and are numbered for referencing purposes only. 

QUOTE #1
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skipping-rope_rhyme
…."For a line of potential jumpers, the jumpers were restricted on time by the length of the chant. They jumped in at the beginning, jumped out at the end, and the next jumper took their turn.

Charlie Chaplin went to France

To teach the ladies how to dance.

First the heel, then the toe,

Then the splits, and around you go!

Salute to the Captain,

Bow to the Queen,

And turn your back on the Nazi submarine!

In another version, the teacher is "Benjamin Franklin."[7] In the Charlie Chaplin rhyme, the child jumping had to follow directions as the rope was turning: touching the heel of one foot on the ground; touching the toe of the same foot on the ground; doing a (short) split of the feet, turning around, saluting, bowing, and jumping out from the turning rope on the last line. This rhyme, c. 1942, reflects children's awareness of World War II.[3][4]

An Australian version of the Charlie Chaplin Skipping Song, as sung at Salisbury Primary School in Brisbane, Australia in the mid 1950s, is as follows:

Charlie Chaplin went to France,

To teach the ladies how to dance,

First he did the Rumba,

Then he did the twist,

Then he did the Highland Fling,

And then he did the splits.

There's also "Betty Grable went to France,/To teach the soldiers how to dance." (The rest is the same.)"

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QUOTE #2

From  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rucp0rWs4pU&t=163s -@janetgrooms6377, 2021
CHARLIE CHAPLIN WENT TO FRANCE

"Charlie Chaplin went to France

To Teach the girlies how to dance.

A heel, A toe, around we go!

Salute to the Captain and Bow to the Queen,

And touch the Bottom of  the Submarine!

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Wednesday, October 23, 2024

Names Of Politicians In Children's Recreational Rhymes

 Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest edition -October 24, 2024

This pancocojams post presents some examples of English language children's rhymes that include a politician's name.

By "children's rhymes" I mean rhymes that may or may not have been composed by children, but are documented as being chanted by children while jumping rope, playing hand clap games, recited as taunting rhymes, or otherwise.

The online sources for these playground rhymes are given after the examples. Information about the politicians whose names are mentioned is given after the first rhyme in this compilation that includes that name. This information usually comes from Wikipedia.

No performance activity is specified for most of these rhymes. However, I believe that most of these examples are either hand clap rhymes or jump rope rhymes.

The content of this post is presented for folkloric, historical, cultural, and entertainment purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

This post isn't meant to be a comprehensive collection of English language playground rhymes that include names of politicians. In most cases, I'm only showcases one version of these rhymes. However, there are often multiple versions of each featured rhyme. 

Thanks to all those whose examples are quoted in this post.

In alphabetical order, the politicians' names that are featured in this compilation of children's rhymes are David Tom Bradley, George Bush, Jr., Fidel Castro, Winston Churchill, Bill Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, John George Diefenbaker, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Benjamin Franklin, Muammar Gaddafi, Hermann Goering, Al Gore, Jr, Heinrich Himmler,  Adolph Hitler, John Howard,  Saddam Hussein, John F, Kennedy, Nikita Khrushchev, Osama Bin Laden, "Alf" Landon,  Abraham Lincoln, Thabo Mbeki, Ho Chi Minh, Benito Mussolini, Barack Obama, Ronald Reagan, Nelson Rockefeller, Franklin D. Roosevelt,  Albert Dean Rossellini, Arnold Schwarzenegger,  Adlai Stevenson, Margaret Thatcher, Donald Trump, George Washington, and Christie Todd Whitman.

These rhymes may also include the names of other famous peoples who aren't politicians (for instance, "Monica [Lewinsky]" in the rhyme entitled "Bill & Monica"). These rhymes may also include the name of a non-political famous person such as Michael Jackson, and/ or a fictitious character such as "Betty Crocker".
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Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/08/playground-rhymes-that-include-names-of_30.html for Part I of the pancocojams series "Children's Rhymes That Include Names Of Famous People". Part I features children's rhymes whose titles begin with A-L. 

Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/08/playground-rhymes-that-include-names-of_54.html  "Names Of Famous People In Children's Recreational Rhymes (Part II- rhymes whose titles begin with M-Z)"

Politicians' names are purposely not included in these pancocojams posts of famous people in children's rhymes.

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FEATURED EXAMPLES

Note: These examples are presented in alphabetical order based on the rhymes' titles (usually the first few words of there first line.) The titles are written in capital letters.

In each rhyme, a politician's name is given in italics the first time it is mentioned.

Numbers

10-20-30-40-50 Or More [title] 
10-20-30-40-50 or more 
Ronald Reagan (or whoever, but if there was nobody around to sing to, we would say Ronald Reagan) let a fart in the grocery store.
Fifty men died trying to hold their breath
but Ronald Regan let another one and killed the rest.
-jennyb, https://ask.metafilter.com/122487/Teddy-Bear-Teddy-Bear-turn-aroundand-then-what,  May 19, 2009
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[from Wikipedia] "
Ronald Wilson Reagan[a] (February 6, 1911 – June 5, 2004) was an American politician and actor who served as the 40th president of the United States from 1981 to 1989. A member of the Republican Party, he became an important figure in the American conservative movement, and his presidency is known as the Reagan era."...

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A, B

BENJAMIN FRANKLIN WENT TO FRANCE
Benjamin Franklin went to France
To teach the ladies how to dance.
First the heel, and then the toe,
Spin around and out you go.
Source: http://www.homeschool.co.uk/resource/jump-rope/famous-people-rhymes
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from Wikipedia] "Benjamin Franklin (January 17, 1706 [O.S. January 6, 1705][1] – April 17, 1790) was ... one of the Founding Fathers of the United States. Franklin was a leading author, printer, political theorist, politician, freemason, postmaster, scientist, inventor, humorist, civic activist, statesman, and diplomat." [Wikipedia]

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BILL AND MONICA
Bill & Monica sittin
in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G
First comes Ken Starr
Then comes Hillary
Oops!
There goes the Presidency!
-Butirfli, http://www.streetplay.com/discus/ Streetplay.com Discussion: Girl Games: Singing: Silly songs, theme songs, etc.: Archive through November 27, 2000, May 26, 1999
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[from Wikipedia] "William Jefferson Clinton (born William Jefferson Blythe III; August 19, 1946) is an American politician who served as the 42nd President of the United States from January 20, 1993, to January 20, 2001. Prior to the presidency, he was the Governor of Arkansas from 1979 to 1981, and again from 1983 to 1992" [Wikipedia]

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 Monica [last name: Lewisky]:
[from Wikipedia] "President Bill Clinton admitted to having had what he called an "inappropriate relationship" with [Monica] Lewinsky while she worked at the White House in 1995–1996. The affair and its repercussions (which included Clinton's impeachment) became known later as the Clinton–Lewinsky scandal." [Wikipedia]

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C, D

CHITTY CHITTY BANG BANG
Chiti chiti bang bang I know karate
Chiti chiti bang bang
oops im sorry!
chiti chiti bang bang
I want my mommy!
chiti chiti bang bang
I gotta go potty!
chiti chiti bang bang...
abraham lincoln sittin on a fence
try to make a dollar outta twenty five cents
twist twist! Twist like this!
-missingAcastle, http://www.dance.net/topic/5144224/2/Humor/HAND-GAMES-yaaaaaaaay.html&replies=28 "re: HAND GAMES!!! yaaaa!",On Sat Sep 16, 2006
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[from Wikipedia]"Abraham Lincoln (February 12, 1809 – April 15, 1865) was an American statesman and lawyer who served as the 16th President of the United States from March 1861 until his assassination in April 1865. Lincoln led the United States through the American Civil War"...

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CINDERELLA DRESSED IN YELLA

Cinderella Dressed in Yella (1978)

Cinderella, dressed in yella,

Went downstairs to meet her fella,

Made a mistake, kissed a snake,

How many doctors did it take?

Cinderella dressed in pink,

Went downstairs to the kitchen sink.

The kitchen sink was full of ink,

How many mouthfuls did she drink?

Cinderella dressed in yella,

Went downtown to buy some mustard.

On the way her girdle busted,

How many people were disgusted?

Cinderella in the cellar,

Making love to Rockefeller,

Cinderella dressed in yella turns around like this!

From Cinderella Dressed in Yella, "a unique collection of Australian playrhymes", (1978) Turner, Factor, & Lowenstein. Heineman Educational Australia Cinderella Dressed in Yella
posted by Rachel Hope Crossman, June 15, 2011, http://www.365cinderellas.com/2011/06/163-cinderella-dressed-in-yella-1978.html
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"Rockerfeller" probably refers to Nelson Rockerfeller
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Rockefeller
"Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (July 8, 1908 – January 26, 1979), sometimes referred to by his nickname Rocky,[1] was an American businessman and politician who served as the 41st vice president of the United States from 1974 to 1977 under President Gerald Ford. He had previously been elected as the 49th governor of New York from 1959 to 1973, the longest-serving governor of the state since the end of the Revolutionary War. Rockefeller was a member of the Republican Party and the wealthy Rockefeller family."

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DOWN BY THE BANK A HANKY PANKY (Example #1)
Here is one I knew from New Jersey:

Down by the bank
a hanky panky
where the bullfrogs jump from bank to bank
sayin' eep opp eep opp opp
a skittle and a dittle and a kernel pop
I pledge allegiance to the flag
michael jackson makes me gag
arnold schwarz' has no brain
christie whitman went insane

LOL
-north_ernlights, http://linguaphiles.livejournal.com/4327510.html, February 19 2009,
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[from Wikipedia] [Arnold Schwarzenegger] actor and politician "served two terms as the 38th Governor of California from 2003 until 2011."

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[from Wikipedia]Christie whitman - "Christine "Christie" Todd Whitman (born September 26, 1946) is an American Republican politician and author who served as the 50th Governor of New Jersey from 1994 to 2001..." [Wikipedia]

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DOWN THE BANKS WITH A HANKY PANK (Example #2)
I heard at camp

Down by the bank with a hanky pank
where the bullfrogs jump from bank to bank
say 
DOWN  E I O U
Listen to the words song (probably misheard)
I pledge allegiance to the flag
Michael Jackson is my dad
Pepsi cola burned him up
now he's drinking gasoline
gasoline is meant for cars
Now he's shootin up to mars
there's a place on Mars
where the women smoke cigars
and the men wear bikinis
and the babies drink martinis
every step you take is enough to kill a snake
when the snake is dead
you put mustard in its eyes
when the mustard dries
It is 1948
Mickey mouse builds a house
Donald trump messes up

Mirror mirror on the wall
Who the fairest of them all
Y O U
-GUEST, yui, May 16, 2021, https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=94034&page=9Origins: Down by the Banks of the Hanky Panky
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[from Wikipedia] "Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is an American politician, media personality, and businessman who served as the 45th president of the United States from 2017 to 2021.

[...]

Trump lost the 2020 presidential election to Biden but refused to concede. He falsely claimed widespread electoral fraud and attempted to overturn the results. On January 6, 2021, he urged his supporters to march to the U.S. Capitol, which many of them attacked. Scholars and historians rank Trump as one of the worst presidents in American history.

[...]

Since leaving office, Trump has continued to dominate the Republican Party and is their nominee again in the 2024 presidential election."...


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E, F

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G, H

GEORGE WASHINGTON
George Washington

never told a lie.

'till he ran around the corner

(Drag out while singing. The jumper runs out and run around a turner then jumps back in and the song continues)

stole a cherry pie.

How many cherries were in that pie?

1.2.3.4....(count until the jumper messes up)

Contributed by Solana Reed, http://www.gameskidsplay.net/jump_rope_ryhmes/jump_george_washington.htm
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[from Wikipedia] "George Washington (February 22, 1732[b][c] – December 14, 1799) was one of the Founding Fathers of the United States of America and served as the nation's first president (1789–1797)."...

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GO TO THE POLE
I remember when Bush was elected in running in 2000( i think i was in 5th grade) we made up a song to "Mystikal's shake it fast" lol
it went something like
"now listen all you ladies in gents the booth is the place to be
and if you go and vote for Gore, Bush cant mess with me
now shake it fast, go to the pole, shake it fast go to the pole
pull the lever down and see Gore win"

Imagine our disappointment when he lost lol
-iGotSunshine, Aug 09 2012, http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/i-went-downtown-to-get-a-stick-of-butter_topic345408_page4.html
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This is my suggested title for this song. "Pole" here means "poll" i.e. a location where you go to vote.

In this example, "Bush" refers to George W Bush, 43rd President of the United States. He won that election against Al Gore, who had served as the Vice President for the United States with President Bill Clinton.

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HERE'S MARGARET THATCHER
Here's Maggie Thatcher (open palms) Throw her up and catch her (gesture throw and catch) Squish Squash, Squish Squash (rub palms together) There's Maggie Thatcher (open palms)
-http://www.inthe80s.com/rhymes.shtml
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[from Wikipedia] "Margaret Hilda Thatcher,...October 1925 – 8 April 2013) was a British stateswoman and Conservative politician who was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1979 to 1990 and Leader of the Conservative Party from 1975 to 1990. She was the longest-serving British prime minister of the 20th century and the first woman to hold the position."...

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HITLER’S BALLS
Being the man from Norway I guess I'm obliged to contribute to this thread... As no one has contributed the version I remember, I give you the following in the interests of the record being absolutely complete:
Hitler had only one left ball
Goering had two but very small
Himmler had something similar
And poor ol' Goebbels, had no balls at all
- bassen, http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=2998 "Naughty kids' greatest hits II", 2/20/1999
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Hitler:
From [Wikipedia] "Adolf Hitler 20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945) was a German politician, demagogue,[1] and Pan-German revolutionary.[2][3] He was leader of the Nazi Party, and rose to power in Germany as Chancellor in 1933 and FΓΌhrer ("Leader") in 1934.[a] During his dictatorship from 1933 to 1945, he initiated World War II in Europe by invading Poland in September 1939, and was central to the perpetration of the Holocaust."
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Hermann Goering and Heinrich Himmler were German Nazi leaders who assisted Adolph Hitler.

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HOMEWORK AT MORNING
..."children have their own views on education, as this skipping rhyme demonstrates:-

Homework at morning
Homework at night.
All this homework
Can't be right.
Try this homework
On David Blunkett,
If HE can't do it
We'll just junk it."
-Miles Kington, href="http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/campbell-blunkett-and-fayed-join-the-playground-skipping-circle-1161862.html "Campbell, Blunkett and Fayed join the playground skipping circle", 1 May 1998,
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[from Wikipedia] "David Blunkett (born 6 June 1947) is a British Labour Party politician and the Member of Parliament." [Wikipedia]

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I, J

I WENT TO A CHINESE RESTAURANT
We had a variation on the "I went to a chinese restaurant" one:

I went to a chinese restaurant to buy a load of bread bread bread,
He wrapped it up in a five pound note and this is what he said, said said,
My name is...elvis presley,
girls are sexy,
sitting in the back seat,
drinking pepsi,
Margaret Thatcher,
Do me a favour.....drop....down....DEAD!

I was five...I had no idea how Margaret Thatcher was! But I'm sure my Labour-supporting parents were very proud!

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JINGLE BELLS
Jingle bells,
Batman smells,
Robin laid an egg,
Barack Obama killed Osama in the USA

or it can end with: Barack Obama taught his grandma how to suck an egg

I’m sorry, I really loved Obama as president but I didn’t grow up in America, and we were insensitive seven year olds when we came up with this one.

 (sorry!)
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This is how this rhyme was written on that page. 
-Miranda Carter, 2018, https://www.quora.com/What-s-the-last-line-of-the-song-Jingle-Bells-Batman-smells 
What’s the last line of the song, “Jingle Bells, Batman smells”?
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From Wikipedia- "Barack Hussein Obama II[a] (born August 4, 1961) is an American politician who served as the 44th president of the United States from 2009 to 2017. As a member of the Democratic Party, he was the first African-American president in U.S. history. Obama previously served as a U.S. senator representing Illinois from 2005 to 2008 and as an Illinois state senator from 1997 to 2004."...

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[from Wikipedia] - "Osama bin Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden[a] (March 10, 1957[7] – May 2, 2011[8]), also transliterated as Usama bin Ladin, was a Saudi terrorist and founder of the Pan-Islamic militant organization al-Qaeda.

On May 2, 2011,[22] bin Laden was shot and killed[23] by US Navy SEALs inside a private residential compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan"...

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JOHN F KENNEDY WENT TO HAWAII
John F Kennedey went to Hawaii
And went down to the sea.
And the waves got highere and higher(swing rope higher up off the ground)
And faster and faster! (Swing rope faster. Jumper is out when they can't jump over the rope or can't jump fast enough.)
-http://www.homeschool.co.uk/resource/jump-rope/famous-people-rhymes.html, Jan 28 2006
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[from Wikipedia] "John Fitzgerald Kennedy (May 29, 1917 – November 22, 1963), commonly referred to by his initials JFK, was an American politician who served as the 35th President of the United States from January 1961 until his assassination in November 1963."...

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JOY TO THE WORLD HUSSEIN IS DEAD [Version #1]
Joy to the world, Hussein is dead
We barbecued his head.
What happened to his body?
We flushed it down the potty.
And around and around it goes
And around and around it goes.
And around, around, around it goes.
-http://www.homeschool.co.uk/resource/jump-rope/famous-people-rhymes.html
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[from Wikipedia] "Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti 28 April 1937[b] – 30 December 2006) was President of Iraq from 16 July 1979 until 9 April 2003.[10]...

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JOY TO THE WORLD HUSSEIN IS DEAD [Version #2]
Joy to the world Heusein is we shot him in the head what happened to his body we flushed it down the potty around and around it goes around and around it goes around it goes what happened to his eyeballs we threw them at the school walls smush smush smush
-http://www.inthe80s.com/rhymes.shtml

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JOY TO THE WORLD JOHN HOWARD'S DEAD
I remember this one from primary school:
Joy to the World,
John Howards dead,
We barbecued his head.
He didn't pay his taxes,
We chopped him up with axes,
Joy to the World John Howards dead.

I went to his coffin,
I went to his grave.
Everyone threw flowers,
I threw a grenade.
The coffin went up,
the coffin came down,
the coffin went splat all over the ground
Joy to the World John Howards dead.
I looked in his coffin,
He wasn't quite dead.
So I pulled out a bazooka and blew off his head
Joy to the World John Howards dead.
-Guest, Tipsy Turvy, http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=122222
"Jingle Bells, Batman Smells", 12/21/2008
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[from Wikipedia] "John Howard was the 25th Prime Minister of Australia from 11 March 11,1996 to December 3, 2007."

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K, L

KING GEORGE HAD A DATE
King George, he had a date,
King George, he stayed out late.
He was the king.
Queen Mary, she got sore,
She waited at the door,
King George came home at four,
God save the king.
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We sang this on the playground of P.S. 249, Brooklyn NY USA in the early 1950s. It must have originated in Britain and hopped the pond. We sang it to the tune of My Country Tis of Thee, having no idea there was such a song (same tune) as God Save the King/Queen.
-Cool Beans, 24 Aug 09, https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=115214 
Famous People in Children's Rhymes
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"George" was the name of several kings of England/United Kingdom. "
The King George whose queen was called Mary, refd in above, was George V, 1910-36, grandfather of present Queen Elizabeth II."- MGM Lion, 25 Aug 09 same mudcat link.

In response to my question, Cool Beans wrote in a subsequent comment "
There were no motions accompanying the song about King George; we just sang it. "
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Queen Mary was the daughter of Francis, Prince and Duke of Teck, and Princess Mary Adelaide of Cambridge, granddaughter of George III. She married King George V in 1893 and they had six children."

https://www.rct.uk/collection/people/queen-mary-of-the-united-kingdom-1867-1953#/type/subject-


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LANDON IN THE WHITEHOUSE
Landon in the White House
Waiting to be elected.
Rosevelt in the garbage can,
Waiting to be collected.
-http://www.homeschool.co.uk/resource/jump-rope/jump-rope-rhymes.html
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[from Wikipedia] "Alfred "Alf" Mossman Landon (September 9, 1887 – October 12, 1987) was an American Republican politician, who served as Governor of Kansas from 1933–1937. He was best known as Republican Presidential Nominee, defeated in a landslide by Franklin D. Roosevelt in the 1936 presidential election." [Wikipedia]

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[from Wikipedia] "Franklin Delano Roosevelt (/ˈroʊzΙ™vΙ™lt/,[1] /-vΙ›lt/;[2] January 30, 1882 – April 12, 1945), often referred to by his initials FDR, was an American statesman and political leader who served as the 32nd President of the United States from 1933 until his death in 1945. A Democrat, he won a record four presidential elections and became a central figure in world events during the first half of the 20th century." [Wikipedia]

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MARIJUANA, MARIJUANA (Example #1)
Marijuana, Marijuana
PCP, PCP
Betty Crocker makes it,
Ronald Reagan takes it,
Why can't we? Why can't we?
-http://www.inthe80s.com/rhymes.shtml, retrieved by Azizi Powell, 10/15/2008

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MARIJUANA, MARIJUANA (Example #2) 
I remember quite a few as a kid growing up in New York

This one is specific to New York City, sung to the tune of "Frere Jacques":


Marijuana, marijuana
LSD, LSD
Rockefeller takes it
Mayor Lindsay makes it
Why can't we?
Why can't we?

This rhyme was popular in 1968-1970; teens started it and passed it down to the younger kids. I found out when I was older that this was a protest against the Rockefeller drug laws enacted when Mr. Moneybags was governor.

-meow2u3 Apr-17-11; https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9668007
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[From Wikipedia] 
"John V. Lindsay was the Mayor of New York City from 1966 to 1973. John Vliet Lindsay was born November 24, 1921, in New York City."...

"Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (July 8, 1908 – January 26, 1979) was an American businessman and politician who served as the 41st vice president of the United States from December 1974 to January 1977, and previously as the 49th governor of New York from 1959 to 1973."

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NIKOSI SIKELELI AFRICA
I got to thinking about playground rhymes a few years ago when my sons, then aged about 8 and 10, came back from school with some New South African classics (sorry, I remember only fragments of them). This one was sung to the tune of our National Anthem:


'Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrica
Thabo Mbeki promised us a VCR
When we went to fetch it, all he said
Was voetsek, and never come back'
-http://salma-gundi.blogspot.com/2008/01/skinny-malinky-long-legs-big-banana.html "Skinny Malinky Long-Legs, Big Banana Feet, and other priceless South African playground rhymes and skipping songs"
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[from Wikipedia]Thabo Mbeki was the second post-apartheid President of South Africa from 14 June 1999 to 24 September 2008" 

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ON TOP OF OLD SMOKEY (Example #1)
On top of a white roof, all covered with blood
Regan shot Khadafi, with a 44 stud.
He went to his funeral, he went to his grave
Instead of red roses, he threw a granade.
He read in the papers, that he wasn't dead
So he bought a bazooka and blew off his head.
-http://www.inthe80s.com/rhymes.shtml
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"Regan" = Ronald Reagan

Khadafi = Muammar Gaddafi, former leader of Libya [Wikipedia]

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ON TOP OF OLD SMOKEY (Example #2)
When I was a kid one of the songs we sang was
On top of Old Smoky, all covered with sand,
I shot Premier Khrushchev with a blue rubber band.
I shot him with pleasure, I shot him with pride.
I couldn't have missed him - he's 40 feet wide.

Second verse: change rubber band color and shoot Fidel Castro.

If I'd been a few years younger I'm sure I'd have learned to shoot Ho Chi Minh...
-Harou, http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=28401,
12/07/2000
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Nikita Khrushchev was a Russian politician who led the Soviet Union during part of the Cold War. [Wikipedia]

"Fidel Castro is a Cuban politician and revolutionary who served as Prime Minister of the Republic of Cuba from 1959 to 1976 and then President from 1976 to 2008." [Wikipedia]

"Ho Chi Minh was a Vietnamese Communist revolutionary leader who was prime minister (1945–55) and president (1945–69) of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam (North Vietnam)". [Wikipedia]

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ORDER IN THE COURT
I lived in Clearfield, Utah beginning in 1948. There were a number of military installations nearby, and all of the kids in my neighborhood chanted it as:

Order in the court
The judge is eatin' beans
Hitler's in the bathtub
sinkin' submarines.

As far as I knew, everyone just took the literal meaning, no matter how nonsensical it seemed to us, even then. We just thought it was a fun thing to say.
-Diana, Dec. 17, 2021; https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2018/01/examples-of-childrens-rhymes-order-in.html

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THE WAR IS OVER
The war is over
Mussolini's dead
He wants to go to heaven
with a crown upon his head
The Lord says 'no'
He's got to stay below
All dressed up
And no place to go!
-http://www.homeschool.co.uk/resource/jump-rope/famous-people-rhymes.html, June 03 2005
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"Benito Mussolini was an Italian politician, journalist, and leader of the National Fascist Party, ruling the country as Prime Minister from 1922 until his ousting in 1943." [Wikipedia]

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UNDERNEATH THE CHURCHYARD
under neath the churchyard
six feet deep
there lies hitler
fast asleep
all the little mice come and tickle his feet
neath the churchyard six feet deep
-http://www.homeschool.co.uk/resource/jump-rope/famous-people-rhymes.html, January 31 2006

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VOTE, VOTE, VOTE FOR WINSTON CHURCHILL (Example #1)
Here's one I learned at my mother's knee. Don't know if it's a children's rhyme or a grown-ups one. It probably dates from 1945 or so. Although I can sing it I can't remember the name of the original tune - it'll come to me soon!

Vote, vote, vote for Winston Churchill
Throw all the others in the dock.
Winston is our man, we'll have him if we can
And we'll throw all the others in the dock.
(By the cock!)
-Guest, http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=115214 "Famous People in Children's Rhymes", 10/12/2008
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"Winston Churchill was a British statesman who was the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1940 to 1945 and again from 1951 to 1955." [Wikipedia]

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VOTE VOTE VOTE FOR WINSTON CHURCHILL (Example #2)
Vote, vote, vote for Winston Churchill
Throw all the others in the dock.
Winston is our man, we'll have him if we can
And we'll throw all the others in the dock.
(By the cock!) "

It went to the tune of "Tramp tramp tramp, the boys are marching."
My mother mentioned once that, when she was at school (in Portsmouth, UK) in the early forties, election day was always a school holiday. Groups of children would spend the day going round arm-in-arm singing, at least, the first line of the song, but using the names of the ellection candidates. They weren't partisan, but would sing the name of one candidate for a while, then go on to the next.
-Guest, http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=115214 "Famous People in Children's Rhymes", 


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WHISTLE WHILE YOU WORK (Example #1)
Ah, and in my Republican white collar suburb of Detroit, in the 50's we sang:
Whistle while you work
Stevenson's a jerk
Eisenhower has the power
Whistle while you work.
-Barbara, http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=81350&messages=243 "I'm Rubber . You're Glue: Children's Rhymes", 22 May 05
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"Adlai Ewing Stevenson II (February 5, 1900 – July 14, 1965) who served one term as governor of Illinois and ran, unsuccessfully, for president against Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1952 and 1956". [Wikipedia]

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WHISTLE WHILE YOU WORK (Example #2)
When I was growing up in North Bay in Canada, I heard this song, sung to the tune of "Whistle while you Work" from Snow White
Oh, Whistle while you work
For Hitler is a jerk
Mussolini bit his weinie
Now it doesn't work!

(We were pretty rude kids)

-Guest, http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=76185 "Naughty kids' greatest hits II", 6/26/2000

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WHISTLE WHILE YOU WORK (Example #3)
Whistle while you work,
Hitler is a jerk,
Rosellini bit his weenie,
Now it doesn't work.

Interestingly (?), former Governor Rosellini has been in the news recently (well, a year ago maybe) for his role in the Seattle City Council "Strippergate" scandal, which led to the electoral defeat of several councilperoffspring. ("-peroffspring" is the non-sexist, non-ageist version of "-man")
I was born in 1954 in Seattle (Washington, USA)… I'm pretty sure my recollection of "Whistle while you work" dates to the early '60s when I lived at 2311 North 59th Street in Seattle.
-Haruo, http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=2795 " Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho, I Bit the Teacher's Toe!", 3/29/2005 and 3/30/2005
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"Albert Dean Rosellini (January 21, 1910 – October 10, 2011) was an American politician, the 15th governor of the state of Washington for two terms, from 1957 to 1965."..[Wikipedia]

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WHISTLE WHILE YOU WORK (Example #4)
From my grade school days:
Whistle while you work.
Cyril is a jerk.
Mussolini bit his weenie
Now it doesn't squirt.
(Mussolini had been dead a good 20 years when I heard this.)
-LadyJean, (Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)*, 01 Jul 04, https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4300
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I'm not sure who the name "Cyril" refers to.  Since the person remembering that rhyme is from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania*, my guess is that name referred to Cyril Wecht**. However,  It's  possible (but I think less likely) that the name "Cyril" was included in that rhyme at random as the name of a boy who the chanter didn't like.

*I know that Lady Jean is from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania where I moved to when I was 21 years old, because she and I were active members of Mudcat Discussion forum during the same period of time.

** [from Wikipedia- "Cyril Harrison Wecht (March 20, 1931 – May 13, 2024) was an American forensic pathologist. He was president of both the American Academy of Forensic Sciences and the American College of Legal Medicine, and headed the board of trustees of the American Board of Legal Medicine.[10] Wecht served as County Commissioner and Allegheny County Coroner and Medical Examiner, serving the Pittsburgh metropolitan area. He was perhaps best known for his criticism of the Warren Commission's findings concerning the assassination of John F. Kennedy."

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WHISTLE WHILE YOU WORK (Example #5)
In Quebec Canada there were a few extra lines to the Whistle while you work song.(50's)
Whistle while you work
Kruschev is a jerk
Diefenbaker is a faker
Mussolini bit his weiny
Now it doesn't work.

Something like that.
-unknown, https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/08/playground-rhymes-that-include_87.html [comment], April 3, 2019 
Here's information about Diefenbaker:

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Diefenbaker :
"John George Diefenbaker...September 18, 1895 – August 16, 1979) was the 13th prime minister of Canada, serving from June 21, 1957 to April 22, 1963."...

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WHISTLE WHILE YOU WORK (Example #6)
Whistle while you work, Hitler is a jerk, Mussolini pulled his weinie now it doesn't squirt.
-Anonymous, https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/08/playground-rhymes-that-include_87.html [comment],May 4, 2022, 

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