tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post9191395963546742499..comments2024-03-28T07:58:41.643-04:00Comments on pancocojams: A Timeline For The Use Of The Saying "The Blacker The Berry, The Sweeter The Juice" Azizi Powellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-31620264763646419182023-11-04T07:18:45.889-04:002023-11-04T07:18:45.889-04:00Anonymous, thanks for adding that quote of 'th...Anonymous, thanks for adding that quote of 'the blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice" lyrics from rapper Trick Daddy's 2005 song "Sugar (On my tongue) song.<br /><br />Apparently, this widely known African American saying has been used by us in a number of music genres for some time-which is another reason why it is so well known.<br /> Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-40485376115420825812023-11-03T23:20:05.462-04:002023-11-03T23:20:05.462-04:00The song is called Sugar (On my tongue)The song is called Sugar (On my tongue)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-65534867796492865512023-11-03T23:19:05.789-04:002023-11-03T23:19:05.789-04:00Trick daddy 2005 -
Orally, I speak the truth
Cuz t...Trick daddy 2005 -<br />Orally, I speak the truth<br />Cuz the blacker the berry<br />The sweeter the juice<br />Cuz, Florida oranges and Georgia peaches<br />When they nice and ripe, they the best for eatin'<br />Southern boys we crave for old slice of pie after they main courseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-89102319151166012992022-02-11T13:47:47.888-05:002022-02-11T13:47:47.888-05:00Thanks for sharing that information with us Anonym...Thanks for sharing that information with us Anonymous.<br /><br />Here's the hyperlinks:<br /><br /><a href="https://genius.com/Pete-rock-and-cl-smooth-lots-of-lovin-lyrics" rel="nofollow">https://genius.com/Pete-rock-and-cl-smooth-lots-of-lovin-lyrics</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd2HJlTpUbs" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd2HJlTpUbs</a><br /><br />Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-85870380448678810052022-02-11T03:39:58.886-05:002022-02-11T03:39:58.886-05:00"Some say the blacker the berry, the sweeter ..."Some say the blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice" is a lyric from Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth's 1992 song 'Lot's of Lovin.<br />https://genius.com/Pete-rock-and-cl-smooth-lots-of-lovin-lyrics<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd2HJlTpUbsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-71610740305956462292020-06-03T09:27:54.476-04:002020-06-03T09:27:54.476-04:00Hello, Joseph.
Thanks for sharing that informatio...Hello, Joseph.<br /><br />Thanks for sharing that information about that early date for the saying "the blacker the berry the sweeter the juice." <br /><br />I had to look up the reference you cited. Here's some information for others who (like me) might not be familiar with St. Mary's [Kansas] Journal:<br /><br />About this Newspaper<br />Title<br />St. Mary's Journal (St. Marys, Kan.) 1894-1908<br />Other Title<br />Saint Mary's journal<br />Of Publication<br />1894-1908<br />Created / Published<br />St. Marys, Kan. : Graham & Cooper, 1894-1908.<br />Subject Headings<br />- United States--Kansas--Pottawatomie--St. Marys<br />Notes<br />- Weekly, June 11, 1896-Sept. 25, 1908<br />- Vol. 1, no. 1 (June 7, 1894)-v. 15, no. 17 (Sept. 25, 1908).<br />- Published by: Graham Pub. Co., Aug. 2, 1894-Jan. 14, 1898; John J. Graham, Jan. 21, 1898-Sept. 25, 1908."...<br /><br />Source: <a href="https://www.loc.gov/item/sn85031717/" rel="nofollow">https://www.loc.gov/item/sn85031717/</a><br /><br />I tried to look up that page of that newspaper online to find out the context in which that saying was used, but I didn't know how to do it. Any additional information that you have about how this saying was used in that newspaper would be appreciated.<br /><br />Best wishes! Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-45811150915280403352020-06-02T23:41:29.632-04:002020-06-02T23:41:29.632-04:00Hi Azizi, “the blacker the berry the sweeter the j...Hi Azizi, “the blacker the berry the sweeter the juice” is quoted as a saying in the St. Mary's [Kansas] _Journal_, 12/17/1896.Joseph Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14831150593084161423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-1722130960064814232020-02-22T21:36:55.686-05:002020-02-22T21:36:55.686-05:00Greetings, Donna Sue Johnson.
I'm re-reading ...Greetings, Donna Sue Johnson.<br /><br />I'm re-reading this post and its comments as a result of a new comment that it received today and I realize that I didn't thank you for the information about Shirlee Taylor Haizlip's 1995 book "The Sweeter The Juice". I'll add that to an updated version of this post.<br /><br />Also, I'm wondering if you are working on your book about your family. I hope you will publish it in some form or the other.<br /><br />Best wishes to you! Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-83803326181842133822020-02-22T21:10:45.298-05:002020-02-22T21:10:45.298-05:00Thanks, Anonymous for sharing information about Ed...Thanks, Anonymous for sharing information about Edmonia Henderson's song "Black Man Blues".<br /><br />I see I'm going to have to update this post's time line for that saying. <br /><br />Here's a link to a sound file of that song <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ_8w61mcI8" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ_8w61mcI8</a>.<br /><br />Thanks again. Best wishes on your research! Please feel free to share transcriptions or other info that you find by writing me at azizip17 at yahoo dot com Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-48988914581907150672020-02-22T20:30:03.859-05:002020-02-22T20:30:03.859-05:00I've been doing some work transcribing old &qu...I've been doing some work transcribing old "race records" (as they were called at the time) that Paramount Records released back in the 1920s and 30s, and I've stumbled across one you might be interested in. Look up "Black Man Blues" by Edmonia Henderson; the opening line is "Blacker the berry, sweeter the juice." Recorded in December of 1923.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-58111318499524221732019-06-23T10:38:02.572-04:002019-06-23T10:38:02.572-04:00Donna Sue Johnson, thanks for sharing the saying &...Donna Sue Johnson, thanks for sharing the saying "The Blacker the Berry the Sweeter the juice/ I got a Black Man for my own personal use". <br /><br />I've never come across the second part at that saying before.<br /><br />I hope that you write and publish a book about your family history. It certainly sounds as if it would be interesting and rich with cultural material. <br /><br />Bless up! Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-72495663189899701702019-06-23T09:05:43.576-04:002019-06-23T09:05:43.576-04:00This is Donna Sue Johnson, My "Mama Dot"...This is Donna Sue Johnson, My "Mama Dot" Dorothy T. Gibson my Maternal Grandmother; married Charles F. Gibson,MD. My Grandfather was a physician, he died from tuberculosis from house calls treating folks with TB, and he died the same day I was born September 5, 1956.They raised 2 daughters Sue and Beverly. Sue had 2 children, me and my brother Charles. Aunt Bobby (as a kid I couldn't say Beverly)raised 3; Duane, Mike and Glenn.<br />I would love to write a book about my family history! These comments inspire me to write that book.<br />Peace be unto you. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11492959163168829743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-65306310450296729562019-06-23T08:50:09.514-04:002019-06-23T08:50:09.514-04:00The above was written by me, Donna Sue Johnson, I ...The above was written by me, Donna Sue Johnson, I was born the same day my Maternal Grandfather died, September 5, 1956. I am a retired Social Worker with a LCSW. I am facinated by my Black History and love learning more each day.<br />Peace be unto youAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11492959163168829743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-18262322848747663872019-06-23T08:46:42.807-04:002019-06-23T08:46:42.807-04:00My Mama Dot asked me if I knew the rest of the quo...My Mama Dot asked me if I knew the rest of the quote "The Blacker the Berry the sweeter the juice" I hadn't so she said, "The Blacker the Berry the Sweeter the juice I got a Black Man for my own personal use"...I have researched this quote today and learned so much about the origins.<br />Wallace Thurmond's book "The Blacker the Berry: A story of Negro life 1929<br /><br />“Some say, “The blacker the berry the sweeter the juice.” I say, the darker the flesh, the deeper the roots.”- Tupac Shakur Not racist. Its a compliment. It implies that darker skin is more close to its roots and rich history.<br /><br />"The Sweeter the Juice" is a provocative memoir that goes to the heart of our American identity. Shirlee Taylor Haizlip.<br /><br />I found more references but none about my Mama Dot's (my Maternal Grandmother)quote.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11492959163168829743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-56455076838621637952019-06-12T17:10:00.911-04:002019-06-12T17:10:00.911-04:00Thanks for sharing that information with us, Unkno...Thanks for sharing that information with us, Unknown.Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-3907850888556059992019-06-07T17:25:28.645-04:002019-06-07T17:25:28.645-04:00Leroy from fame also said itLeroy from fame also said itAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04195667376229261453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-49940735874617035542017-02-26T00:00:05.006-05:002017-02-26T00:00:05.006-05:00Thanks for sharing that example, Unknown.
I appre...Thanks for sharing that example, Unknown.<br /><br />I appreciate it! Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-35109773946265691792017-02-25T16:52:38.319-05:002017-02-25T16:52:38.319-05:00Yes, you're missing one. Pam Grier's chara...Yes, you're missing one. Pam Grier's character says "the blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice" in her starring role in Foxy Brown. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03942600457066158846noreply@blogger.com