tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post6397525642076709472..comments2024-03-28T07:58:41.643-04:00Comments on pancocojams: "Zimbole" May Not REALLY Be An African Children's Song (But It Still Could Be Used To Teach REAL African Cultures) Azizi Powellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-77107050370547700872018-06-04T18:49:25.486-04:002018-06-04T18:49:25.486-04:00Here's a comment from Mama Lisa regarding the ...Here's a comment from Mama Lisa regarding the comment that I wrote in her blog's discussion thread about the song "Zimbole". Note that her comment refers to number of online comments that indicate that "Zimbole" is a Zulu [South African] song:<br />"Lisa Says: <br />June 1st, 2018 at 12:11 pm<br />Hi Azizi,<br /><br />Thanks for the info! Your article is interesting. I asked Frances who grew up in South Africa, about the song and the word “Zimbole”. Here’s her response:<br /><br />“‘Zimbole’ is definitely not Zulu for peace, am asking my fellow music teachers though. (Peace is ukuthula, where the root, thula, means quiet/calm.) Also, Zulu uses punctuation to denote contraction, no accented letters – even tongue clicks are written as c or x. I’ll get back to you!”<br /><br />I’ll let you know what Frances finds!<br /><br />xo Mama Lisa"Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-90970288618912976172018-05-30T23:49:49.545-04:002018-05-30T23:49:49.545-04:00Here are two other places online where the song &q...Here are two other places online where the song "Zimbole" is referred to as an "African song" or a "traditional African song".<br /><br />From <a href="http://yibidy.com.au/2016/11/14/african-songs-that-children-love-to-sing/" rel="nofollow">http://yibidy.com.au/2016/11/14/african-songs-that-children-love-to-sing/</a><br />"Zimbole<br /><br />Zimbole, pronounced zim-bo-lay, is a traditional African song that includes simple body percussion in its structure (three stomps, three thigh slaps…, three hand claps, and one accented “yay!”)"<br /><br />****<br /><a href="https://www.mamalisa.com/blog/does-anyone-know-the-origin-of-zimbole/" rel="nofollow">https://www.mamalisa.com/blog/does-anyone-know-the-origin-of-zimbole/</a> "Does Anyone Know the Origin and Meaning of Zimbole?<br />-snip-<br />In 2015 a visitor to Mama Lisa's great online resource for children's songs asked about the song "Zimbole" and described it as "an African folk song". The visitor also wrote that she "believe[s] it’s an Zulu word for peace but I’m not sure and I can’t find any information anywhere!".<br /><br />The only person who responded to this query shared information about the last name "Zimbole".<br /><br />Here's the comment that I wrote on that website: [comment awaiting moderation]<br /><br />Hello, Mama Lisa.<br /><br />I just published a blog post about the song “Zimbole”. [I added a link to this blog post and this post's title] <br /><br />As the title to that post suggests, I believe that “Zimbole” isn’t a traditional African song but was newly composed (or perhaps adapted from an African song). The producer/composer of this song in 2009 is Johnny Lamprecht, who is German. The song was marketed in an album of African songs with the title “Zimbolé (Fußballtanzlied). Google translate gives the English translation “Soccer dance song” for Fußballtanzlied. (Of course, most people throughout the world refer to that sport as “football” instead of soccer”.<br /><br />I think this song is neo-African. I really like the song for children, but hope that people don’t mislead children (or themselves) into thinking that this is a traditional song. I also hope that children aren’t taught that a song or custom or person is African without asking where in the HUGE continent of Africa that song or custom or person comes from.<br /><br />Best wishes! One Love!Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-56491056006787299592018-05-30T23:24:31.773-04:002018-05-30T23:24:31.773-04:00Here's the complete reprint of this article:
h...Here's the complete reprint of this article:<br /><a href="https://mothertonguesblog.com/2012/01/05/11-words-for-peace-from-1-country/" rel="nofollow">https://mothertonguesblog.com/2012/01/05/11-words-for-peace-from-1-country/</a><br />11 Words For Peace From 1 Country; January 5, 2012<br /><br />"The Constitution of South Africa names eleven official languages:<br /><br />“The official languages of the Republic are Sepedi, Sesotho, Setswana, siSwati, Tshivenda, Xitsonga, Afrikaans, English, isiNdebele, isiXhosa and isiZulu.”<br /><br />As a side note, this makes South Africa only second to India, which recognizes 23 official languages in its Constitution, with the number of dialects as high as 1,650!<br /><br />Most South Africans can speak more than one language. Growing up, I never appreciated the wonder of hearing different sounds and languages around you every day; to hear the rhythms of a language even though you don’t understand what is being said.<br /><br />Here are 11 words for peace, in the national languages of South Africa. May your year be filled with peace, in whichever language you choose to say it!<br /><br />Xhosa: uxolo<br /><br />Zulu and Ndebele: ukuthula<br /><br />Tsonga: ku rhula<br /><br />Venda: mulalo<br /><br />English: peace<br /><br />Sesotho: kgotso<br /><br />Afrikaans: vrede<br /><br />Tswana: kagiso<br /><br />Northern Sotho/Sepedi: khutšo<br /><br />Swati: lucolo<br />-snip-<br />Here are two other articles about how to say "peace" in Zulu and in Xhosa<br /><a href="https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the/zulu-word-for-d7c50a080cb30eef6646744884a95ef9dd00d4ed.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the/zulu-word-for-d7c50a080cb30eef6646744884a95ef9dd00d4ed.html</a><br />"What's the Zulu word for peace? Here's a list of words you may be looking for.<br /><br />Zulu words for peace<br />ukuthula, uxolo, nokuthula, ngokuthula, kuthula"<br /><br />**<br />From <a href="https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the/xhosa-word-for-d7c50a080cb30eef6646744884a95ef9dd00d4ed.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the/xhosa-word-for-d7c50a080cb30eef6646744884a95ef9dd00d4ed.html</a><br />"What's the Xhosa word for peace? Here's a list of words you may be looking for.<br />Xhosa words for peace<br />uxolo, axolelane, ukuthula, zoxolo"<br />Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.com