tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post380646875457512079..comments2024-03-29T05:26:28.491-04:00Comments on pancocojams: "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord No More" & "Oh, You'll never Get To Heaven" (Comments, Lyrics, & Videos) Azizi Powellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-38808646566628604002021-09-01T08:33:29.330-04:002021-09-01T08:33:29.330-04:00Hello Harmon Miller.
Thanks for sharing that info...Hello Harmon Miller.<br /><br />Thanks for sharing that information. Here's a link to a sound file entitled "Vernon Dalhart Ain't Gonna Grieve My Mind (COLUMBIA 15405-D) (1929)"<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB9uaX7d0LY&ab_channel=randomandrare" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB9uaX7d0LY&ab_channel=randomandrare</a><br /><br />You didn't include your great-uncle's name. Are you saying that the singer Vernon Dalhart was your uncle or are you saying that Vernon Dalhart wasn't the composer of this song?<br /><br />Thanks also for your comment about the meaning of "grieve" in the song "Ain't gonna grieve my Lord no more. It's something to think about, although I'm still partial to the meaning "I'm not going to be sad, my Lord, no more (Ain't gonna grieve, my Lord, no more.) Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-72849251261746598002021-08-31T21:57:42.490-04:002021-08-31T21:57:42.490-04:00My great-uncle was a songwriter in the early/mid 2...My great-uncle was a songwriter in the early/mid 20th century and wrote a non-secular version of this song. I guess you could classify it as an "answer" song. It was recorded in 1929 by Vernon Dalhart and is titled "Ain't Gonna Give My Mind Anymore". The lyrics are clever and topical, there are references to Lindbergh and Valentino. You can find it on YouTube. The band, Flying Jenny also covers it.<br />Going back to your discussion about "grieve". If you look up the second definition in the dictionary it states "cause great distress to (someone)". That someone being the Lord. The moral of the "Lord" version is don't cause the Lord distress by doing stupid stuff. Harmon Millernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-10395191757721266762016-04-14T16:15:55.073-04:002016-04-14T16:15:55.073-04:00Ha Ha!
Thanks for sharing that verse with us Jona...Ha Ha!<br /><br />Thanks for sharing that verse with us Jonathan Dushoff.<br /><br />I'm from Atlantic City, N J, and I vaguely remember riding an El in Philly, but I don't know if it was the Frankford El or not.Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-80889127231667138572016-04-14T10:24:09.357-04:002016-04-14T10:24:09.357-04:00My favorite Philadelphia verse later got its own s...My favorite Philadelphia verse later got its own song:<br /><br />You can't get to heaven on the Frankford El<br />'cause the Frankford El, goes straight to Frankford.Jonathan Dushoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03197609136976213552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-22019847764830565932014-05-19T16:52:11.714-04:002014-05-19T16:52:11.714-04:00Hello, 4610.
Several examples of that verse "...Hello, 4610.<br /><br />Several examples of that verse "oh the deacon went down to the cellar to pray, he fell asleep and he stayed all day" are found on the Mudcat discussion thread on the song "Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord No More" <a href="http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=75082" rel="nofollow">http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=75082</a><br /><br />I've also found the "he fell asleep" version of this parody on other sites such as Scouting In Canada <a href="http://www.scoutscan.com/songs/songsi.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.scoutscan.com/songs/songsi.html</a><br /><br />I believe that the "he got drunk and stayed all day" is older than the more "politically correct" version of "he fell asleep and he stayed all day" form.<br /><br />"The preacher got drunk" form might be older than the "the deacon got drunk". But I personally prefer the alliteration of the "deacon got drunk and stayed all day" version.Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-77995153080403538632014-05-17T23:20:00.844-04:002014-05-17T23:20:00.844-04:00I recall singing this song in 5th grade (1979), bu...I recall singing this song in 5th grade (1979), but it went like this: oh the deacon went down to the cellar to pray, he fell asleep and he stayed all. ..... i can't find this version. I wanted to find the rest of the words our music teacher taught us at Ormond beach elementary. 4610https://www.blogger.com/profile/09262413775635239394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-11408302049219011902014-04-25T05:55:59.398-04:002014-04-25T05:55:59.398-04:00Thanks, anonymous April 24, 2014 for your comment ...Thanks, anonymous April 24, 2014 for your comment and for sharing the verses that your taught you. Thanks also for including demographical information. <br /><br />Here's the same "PTC" version from Philly that you shared. The poster learned it in the early 1960s "from his father's time": (This is from that same Mudcat discussion thread whose link I gave in this post: <a href="http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=75082" rel="nofollow">http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=75082</a>)<br /><br />Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Ain't Gonna Grieve My Lord No More<br />From: Mark Cohen <br />Date: 22 Sep 05 - 11:00 PM <br /><br /> As a kid in Philadelphia in the early 60's, we sang one verse that probably dated from my father's time:<br /><br /> Oh you can't get to heaven in a trolley car<br /> 'Cause the PTC doesn't go that far<br /><br /> (The PTC was the Philadelphia Transportation Company, which started out long ago as the Philadelphia Traction Company, and since about 1969 has been the Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority, or SEPTIC--sorry, SEPTA)<br /><br /> The other Philadelphia verse, which has been borrowed by other songs, is:<br /><br /> Oh, you can't get to heaven on the Frankford El<br /> 'Cause the Frankford El goes straight to Frankford"<br />-snip-<br />Here's one more localized example from that discussion thread:<br />"Subject: RE: Lyr Req: More of 'Ain't Gonna Grieve, My Lord, No More<br />From: GUEST <br />Date: 03 Nov 04 - 12:54 AM <br /><br /> In New York City, we used to sing a verse that will take a little bit of explaining; <br /><br /> Oh, you can't get to heaven <br /> On the BMT <br /> 'Cause the BMT <br /> Won't BMT <br /><br />The BMT was the name for one of the three systems of subway lines, the Brooklyn Manhattan Transit company. The last BMT is a pun - it's really "be empty." " <br />-snip-<br />Here's a <br /><br />Another localized referent to a version from Scotland is given on 19 Dec 04 - 09:11 AM of that thread.Azizi Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14963772326145910073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5893219718076521675.post-70239580305582109592014-04-24T00:46:18.417-04:002014-04-24T00:46:18.417-04:00My father taught me this song with a few other ver...My father taught me this song with a few other verses that were popular in the Philadelphia/ Camden area during the 20's and 30's.<br /><br />Oh You can't get to heaven on a trolley car<br />Cause the PTC track don't go that far.<br /><br />Oh You can't get to heaven on Superman's back<br />To Save Lois Lane, He'll drop you Jack.<br /><br />Has anyone else heard any more localized verses?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com