Smash Time Productions, March 7, 2022
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TxSU = Texas Southern University located in Houston, Texas
PV = Prairie View
University located in Prairie View, Texas
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Both Texas Southern and Prairie View are historically Black colleges and universities that are located in the deep South. Stomp & shake cheerleading is new to those universities.
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Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part III of a three part pancocojams series which corrects the mistaken belief that stomp & shake cheerleading is the cheer style that is performed at every historically Black college and university (HBCU).
This post showcases a 2022 of a stomp & shake cheer battle between Texas Southern University located in Houston, Texas and Prairie View University located in Prairie View, Texas.
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS YOUTUBE DISCUSSION THREAD
[This is the video that is embedded in this post.]
Numbers are added for referencing purposes only. I've included brief explanatory notes after a few of these comments. I've also added an opinion note after one of these comments.
2022
1. MR Mocha Major
"Wait a minute! I didn’t know the cheerleaders had all
that smoke! I’m here for it! Great job both teams!"
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2. beyoncestan101
"Hmmm you never watched CIAA cheerleaders ? Lol"
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3. MR Mocha Major
"@beyoncestan101
Never heard of it. Looking it up now."
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4. beyoncestan101
"@MR Mocha Major
CIAA is the oldest HBCU athlete conference. You need to brush up on your
HBCU history. It’s only 4 HBCU athlete conferences."
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5. MR Mocha Major
"@beyoncestan101
I’m from the south. All I have ever known is SWAC."
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6. beyoncestan101
"@MR Mocha Major
The majority of CIAA schools are in the South also in NC,SC and
VA."
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7. MR Mocha Major
" @beyoncestan101
I’m from Louisiana. I should have specified the DEEP south. I consider
those states the northeast lol"
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8. beyoncestan101
" @MR Mocha Major
I’m from NC and this is very much the South. NC has more students
enrolled at HBCUs than any other state. 60k plus to be exact. We have the
strongest HBCU culture here."
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9. Supreme
"@beyoncestan101
Never heard of any HBCU outside of Southern, Jackson, Famu, Howard,
Hampton, Grambling, Tuskegee, TXSU, PVAMU,
Morehouse, Clark and Spelman until like a few years ago."
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10. Supreme
"I was in Charlotte one weekend and it just so happen
to be CIAA. I had no idea what it was even about."
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11. beyoncestan101
"Supreme LOL I
wouldn’t brag about being uninformed about HBCUs. In NC which has the most
students enrolled at HBCUs we don’t talk much about SWAC or SIAC schools but we
know who they are. NCAT got like 5k more
students then the biggest SWAC school please stop. 😂"
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12. Supreme
"@beyoncestan101
Not bragging. Just saying, it's not the Met Gala or anything. It's a regional
celebration. I had fun that weekend I was there and loved Charlotte and even
came back the next year"
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13. beyoncestan101
"@Supreme The
CIAA is the Met Gala of HBCU events. In 10 years the city of Charlotte made
over 700,000 million dollars. The tournament moved to Baltimore, MD for 3
years."
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14. Eric Ford
"And y'all are leaving out the most important fact NC
has the most HBCUs than any state it's why we have the most attendants and the
largest HBCU enrollment wise is n NC (NCA&T) and somebody lying saying they
never heard of any HBCUs in NC who graduates the most Black Engineers in the World whose School of
Engineering is ranked in the top 5 Nationally that's including PWIs- NC
A&T, NCCU is one of the top law schools in the country and WSSU is one of
the top nursing school in the country. All three of the great HBCUs are in the
State of NC"
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15. Eric Ford
"@ MR Mocha Major these cheerleaders ain't ready for the Cheerleaders of the CIAA they can't
compete with that Stomp&Shake style that would make these two squads look
like a elementary school squad
especially compared to WSSU and St Augustine University squads"
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16. Supreme
"@Eric Ford In
the South, the stomp and shake style would be more suited for a Pep Squad or
Step Team. Our cheerleaders focus more on tumbling and being girly. I watch
some stomp and shake videos and it seems the focus is energy and pep. It's
cool. I don't understand it, because it's not my culture. But, they look cute
most times."
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17. Supreme
"@Eric Ford Lol.
Yes. As someone from Louisiana, I recently (last 5 years) found out that people
from Virginia consider themselves southerners. I never knew that."
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18. Eric Ford
"@Supreme it's
because they are a southern state they had no choice. if Washington DC was a
state it would be a southern state, Maryland is a southern state"
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19. Eric Ford
"@Supreme and u
think stomp & Shake isn't girly ...lol...wow y'all ppl in the Deep South
are I keep the rest to myself..lol . There's nothing about stomp &Shake
that's appropriate for a step team. And y'all need to do more than concentrate
on tumbling y'all have a lot to work to do in that area alone. tumbling can be
incorporated in stomp and shake cause NC A&T does quite well with it. And
what do you think cheerleading here? A pep squad is a student body thing has
nothing to do with cheer and the purpose of cheerleaders is to pep up the fans
during a game... what exactly are they teaching y'all in the Deep South got me
puzzled 🤨"
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20. Supreme
"@Eric Ford
That's why I said, It's not my culture. Just a heads up: I like Stomp
and Shake. I'm still learning about it.
I thought the goal was the stomp the loudest and to cheer in the deepest voice.
Stomp and Shake is becoming more and more popular. Even Southern University has
a separate Stomp and Shake team now."
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21. Supreme
" @Eric Ford
Send me the best Stomp And Shake squads to watch. I love all forms of
dance and cheer and can appreciate Stomp and Shake."
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22. Supreme
"@beyoncestan101
CIAA brings in about 43 million per year for Charlotte. That's less than
what the Bayou Classic brings to New Orleans, which is only two teams against
each other. CIAA is not this big thing you think it is. It's fun and I love
seeing successful black people, but yea."
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23. Eric Ford
"@Supreme no
stomp and Shake is about using all body parts it's not restricted to arm usage
it's also a fast pace of cheering and the cheers are more personal meaning not
necessarily team focused but cheerleader
to cheerleader focused and more confrontational. The cheers are loud but the
stomps not necessarily so but in away perfect for bench cheering for example a
basketball game"
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24. Eric Ford
"@Supreme Stomp
and Shake isn't my culture it's not that old. It was created in North Carolina
less than 20 yrs ago. I'm getting use to it myself because I come from old
school competitive based cheering wear stiffness, arms and tumbling is the only
focus stomp and Shake requires a lot of quickness"
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The earliest documented dates that I've found for stomp
& shake cheerleading is the 1970s. Click
http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/06/when-did-stomp-shake-cheerleading-begin.html
for the pancocojams post entitled "When Did Stomp & Shake Cheerleading
Begin? (Online Comments & Website Statements)"
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25. beyoncestan101
"@Supreme You’re
a liar! The 2021 Final Four generated around $40m for Indianapolis . Charlotte
made lover $50 million at the 2020 CIAA tournament. The CIAA tournament is actually
one of the biggest sporting events in American sports culture not just HBCU
Cultufe."
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26. Da’Ron Breaux
"When the TXSU male cheerleader came out and did his
death drop, that shut PV all the way down 😂👏🏽"
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The "death drop" is a dance movement that has its
roots in drag queen balls. It's most closely associated now with Hip Hop
majorette dancing. It hasn't been associated with stomp & shake
cheerleading.
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27. Tynera Piper
"So proud to be a TxSU Alumni Cheerleader!!!!
Yassssssssss! THAT is how you do it!! 📣🐯♥"️
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28. CheerPhi93
"I am still trying to process why a "Shablam
whatchoomacallit" or even a "deathdrop" has to do with any
technical skill in cheer? At least the
PV guy, got up and did 2-3 very nice toe touches (with pointed toes) into a
back tuck...Now that was nice!!! TXSU
had some good straight arm motions in their cheer. Yet, with 15-20 folk on the floor, they could
have been louder. Both squads dancing (8
counts whatever yall call it these days)...blah....."
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29. TheeWalterTerrell
"Gotta love the SWAC!"
30. Tangela Woodland
"Loved the battle but PV need to leave that stomp n
shake mess alone. Don't bring that mess to the SWAC....WE DON'T DO THAT
HERE!"
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31. Eric Ford
"What stomp and shake. The SWAC can't handle the stomp
and shake and u right they do need to leave it alone but they first need to
develop the technique first"
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32. Tynera Piper
"WE DON’T DO THAT HERE!!!!!!!!!!"
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33. Eric Ford
"@Tynera Piper
that ain't the only thing y'all don't do here, cheering not one of them
either but that deathdrop was a beast and the only thing I found impressive
about this video. And what PV was trying to do wasn't anywhere near Stomp &
Shake it's best they stick with their own traditional type of cheering. Stomp
and Shake was created n NC y'all ain't ready for that down there..."
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"NC" = North Carolina
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34. Tynera Piper
"@Eric Ford
Listen, what they do there now is their business. I am proud either
way! I can only speak for when I was
cheering AND captain 10 years ago!!! The death drop did shut PV down, but if
THIS were MY SQUAD, PV wouldn’t have gotten a chance to shake their pom poms ☺"️
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35. Eric Ford
"@Tynera Piper
lol ... i hear you.. I'm old school still big on competitive
cheerleading. And this Stomp and Shake has taken over in high school circles in
NC especially at prodominated black schools hell I'm still pissed my alma mater
(NCAT) dropped coed and went to all female straight stomp &Shake squad but
I guess they had no choice since Stomp and Shake is sooo huge n NC"
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36. Eric Goldberg
"Is this normal for HBCU cheer teams to “meet in the
middle” I went to LSU and have never seen anything like this… or maybe it’s a
special cheer off😂….I definitely found it
interesting…. W goes to TxSU…..🏅😆🥇🎖"
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37. LihJayYT
"Look up stomp & shake"
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38. beyoncestan101
"I need SWAC cheerleaders to study the CIAA because
this was very sloppy."
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39. R J
"Maybe pvam but TXSU handled theirs 🐅🐅🐅"
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40. beyoncestan101
"@R J Nah they
would get ate up my multiple CIAA squads in this format"
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41. Eric Ford
"Both teams have a lot of work to do, the only thing I
was impressed with was that death drop. The one cheer that each squad did do
lacked enough energy for me. Tx Southern squad was acting more like a danceline
than a cheer squad"
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42. R J
"@beyoncestan101
Chile.. which teams so I can blast you lol"
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43. beyoncestan101
"@R J WSSU,
Virginia State, Lincoln, Bowie, St. Aug ,l just to name a couple."
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44. beyoncestan101
"@R J CIAA has
the most popular rand original HBCU cheerleaders. This is why “ Super Saturday”
attracts thousands of fans. The SWAC squads would get are up by most CIAA
squads."
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45. perrion357
"@beyoncestan101
That may be true, but the SWAC has the Best Marching Bands in the
Country, the CIAA doesn't really have bands 50 people and less doesn't
count"
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46. beyoncestan101
"@perrion357
What does Band have to do with cheerleading? The CIAA is D2 and smaller
private schools. Still the CIAA Basketball tournament is the #1 HBCU sporting
event ."
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47. R J
"@beyoncestan101
the SWAC is still the best! Everyone check for us boo! Have a blessed
week!"
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48. Jerron Johnson
"🤣😂😂🤣🤣
I was thinking the same thing. But I decided to let them have it #HBCUPRIDE and
all .. But this was funny at best
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49. beyoncestan101
"@Jerron Johnson
Hmm the largest HBCU is. NC A&T
and GHOE is the biggest Homecoming . Howard, Spelman, Morehouse are the
most prestigious. The CIAA Tournament is also the biggest HBCU sporting event.
No shade but none of these schools are in the SWAC."
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50. 1500daizy
"@beyoncestan101
nobody cares lol they ain’t battling ciaa school 😂"
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51. Best Way Possible 🙏🏾
"(I GOT TIME TODAY). The hate.. 🤣🤣.
Well, it’s expected 🤷🏾♂️; you can almost smell the hate by reading the
totally irrelevant comparison to the CIAA🤣. To truly understand “SWAC culture”, you must
have an appreciation for the specific distinction between the different HBCU
schools and conferences. Its like vocal accents almost.. that vary from
different places within the US, or different foods we appreciate in Chicago or
Atlanta. Two different places and unique flavors but There’s an appreciation
for both if you understand the history of each HBCU. ALL should equally be
celebrated! We love CIAA schools but the SWAC Is and always will be in its OWN
lane. PERIOD, just has any other region or conference. LET TXSU and PV have
their shine. Dang 🤣🤣 smh.. there’s
always one.. lol 😂 — TXSU C/o 2009 🤘🏾
🐅
💨"
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52. beyoncestan101
"@Best Way Possible 🙏🏾 I absolutely love SWAC Culture! Being in the
East Coast football culture is not as big this is lord basketball dominated .
However the CIAA is Iconic for HBCU cheerleadering and the other HBCU
conferences can take a lesson or two from the style and precision of the teams.
This was NOT a good battle . The CIAA cheer exhibition at it speak filled an
NBA arena sir……."
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“At it speak” is a typo for “at its peak”.
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53. STL - Another Comeback City
"@beyoncestan101
TSU and PV are in "the real (deep) south" -like most SWAC
schools. They dont have real
"battles" down here - just awkward friendly rivalries. We're too kind
down here for hard-nosed "battles". CIAA is actually east coast and
quasi-southern. Y'all used to fighting (battling) out there and Atlanta hasn't
been "southern" since all of Black Chicago, St. Louis, Philly, NYC
and Detroit moved there in 90s and early 2000s."
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34. Eric Ford
"@beyoncestan101
thats not true most CIAA schools are public institutions with the
exception of JCSU, Livingstone , Shaw, St Aug, and Lincoln"
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55. Eric Ford
"@Charles Melton
scared to check? Although, they D2 if we were to match up The SWAC
cheerleaders against the CIAA cheerleaders the SWAC won't win once and will get
booed off their own courts. She's right this ain't even considered a cheer
battle idk what to call it a battle definitely it ain't. I've seen all the SWAC
cheerleaders squads they all lack energy their stunts are simple but nowhere
near top notch. A matter of fact I can put some high school cheerleading squads
like Harding University HS, Vance HS, Olympic HS all out of Charlotte, NC,
Dudley HS out of Durham, Fayetteville 71st out of Fayetteville these are high
schools out of NC will have the energy on turbo from the start to the end and
wax the floor with these SWAC cheerleaders boy please you better recognize!!
cause you ain't seen jack!!!"
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56. Eric Ford
"Most of the institutions that was part of the old MEAC
came from the CIAA .. North Carolina A&T, North Carolina Central, Hampton,
And Norfork St all were former CIAA schools look at them now!!!"
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57. Smash Time Productions
"@Best Way Possible 🙏🏾 well said! Everyone has there own lane! CIAA
Cheerleaders have gotten all the shine for years. Mainly because their bands
and other units are not as entertaining compared their cheer squads . Vs the
SWAC most ppl are coming to see the bands and cheer gets overlooked. Now i post
one high quality video of SWAC cheer and it’s a problem. Makes me wonder would
have if SWAC cheer got even more exposure. 🤔"
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58. beyoncestan101
"@Smash Time Productions It’s not a problem we love all HBCUs ❤️
I was just saying this format is original to the CIAA and I’m glad the Stomp n
Shake style is finally taking off in the SWAC!"
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59. CartierCroix
"@beyoncestan101
please understand SWACC isn’t stomp and shake. When all you do is stay
on the east coast you begin to be closed minded. SWACC is very much a stunt,
and tumble squads with strong sharp motions we don’t do stomp and shake. And
that’s coming from a cheerleader who cheered in Georgia, Maryland. People need
to understand the difference in styles"
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60. CartierCroix
"@Smash Time Productions go ahead and keep filming the cheer teams
from the SWACC bc clearly they want more"
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61. Smash Time Productions
"@CartierCroix
Trust me i will."
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